Goodbye Fernando...
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E34-3.2 said:
The way I see what Saward says is that mentally Alonso really got taken to the cleaner by Hamilton. So much that he blackmailed McLaren as he wasn't ready for a rookie to be as fast as him on his first season at the peak of his life. No he never been the same again after that as he knew another driver on the start line was faster than him and could only get better. It must have hurt him so much for Hamilton to be world champion the following year. Alonso is a fantastic driver but whatever people say, he finished behind a rookie in 2007 table and never been able after that to win a world title again.
I agree. Saward is no fool or armchair blogger; he knows the paddock, TPs and many drivers and has been to every race for 20+ years. Alonso being a genius driver, and not being quite the same since 2007 are not mutually exclusive statements.
On any given race day, he may also extract the most possible from the car.
But would you want him leading your team? I'd pick Lewis, Ocon and Ricciardo over him to lead. I'm undecided on Vettel; huge fan of his but this year is key.
Even the new, post Liberty buy out online F1 presence has pillaged the back catalogue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4lAn6iMpug
It's difficult to pick between Hamilton harrying Alonso at Monaco in 2007 and Hamilton and Kimi dicing in the wet at Spa in 2008.
Alonso got pole, fastest lap and the win. Hamilton got 'possibly' in the post race interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4lAn6iMpug
It's difficult to pick between Hamilton harrying Alonso at Monaco in 2007 and Hamilton and Kimi dicing in the wet at Spa in 2008.
Alonso got pole, fastest lap and the win. Hamilton got 'possibly' in the post race interview.
Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 26th September 22:17
Hang on though, isn't Fred's constant whine been he wants more parity between cars so he can compete?
So he does LM in a car in a different class and turns his nose up at f.e. much as I don't think f.e. is all that, it would be a great opportunity for him to show everyone what they're losing, Shirley?
So he does LM in a car in a different class and turns his nose up at f.e. much as I don't think f.e. is all that, it would be a great opportunity for him to show everyone what they're losing, Shirley?
Seems like McLaren will be entering the 2019 Indy 500 with Alonso driving.
Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.
Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.
BraveSirRobin said:
Seems like McLaren will be entering the 2019 Indy 500 with Alonso driving.
Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.
^^ - This. Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.
Couldn't agree more. Zak Brown needs to get his tongue out of Alonso and focus on returning one of the most successful British F1 teams to a higher grid position rather than distracting themselves with pursuing a dream for Nando.
I understand why Fernando wants to achieve the triple crown and he perhaps wouldn't be so hung up on it if he had won more titles in F1, but McLaren need to focus on their F1 entry before going after other things...
Otherwise they will become jack of all trades, master of none in the motorsport world.
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