Goodbye Fernando...

Goodbye Fernando...

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CoolHands

18,635 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
as he knew another driver on the start line was faster than him and could only get better.
Alonso doesn't 'know' anything of the sort. He believes he is faster. Better. They all do. Psychologically there's no way he thinks that.

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
The way I see what Saward says is that mentally Alonso really got taken to the cleaner by Hamilton. So much that he blackmailed McLaren as he wasn't ready for a rookie to be as fast as him on his first season at the peak of his life. No he never been the same again after that as he knew another driver on the start line was faster than him and could only get better. It must have hurt him so much for Hamilton to be world champion the following year. Alonso is a fantastic driver but whatever people say, he finished behind a rookie in 2007 table and never been able after that to win a world title again.
I agree. Saward is no fool or armchair blogger; he knows the paddock, TPs and many drivers and has been to every race for 20+ years.

Alonso being a genius driver, and not being quite the same since 2007 are not mutually exclusive statements.

On any given race day, he may also extract the most possible from the car.

But would you want him leading your team? I'd pick Lewis, Ocon and Ricciardo over him to lead. I'm undecided on Vettel; huge fan of his but this year is key.

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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Even the new, post Liberty buy out online F1 presence has pillaged the back catalogue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4lAn6iMpug

It's difficult to pick between Hamilton harrying Alonso at Monaco in 2007 and Hamilton and Kimi dicing in the wet at Spa in 2008.

Alonso got pole, fastest lap and the win. Hamilton got 'possibly' in the post race interview.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 26th September 22:17

TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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would Ocon or Ricciardo get better results than Alonso throughout a championship?

For that reason I would definitely have him in my team regardless

cocomerc

3 posts

67 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Great driver, remember the races with schumacher they were crazy!!! i guess all good things come to a end!!! good luck to him..

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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According to BBC R5L he's been offered €10M to do a full season of FE next year.

Hamsterdam

124 posts

134 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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thegreenhell said:
According to BBC R5L he's been offered €10M to do a full season of FE next year.
Less than half of what he’s on at McLaren.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Hamsterdam said:
thegreenhell said:
According to BBC R5L he's been offered €10M to do a full season of FE next year.
Less than half of what he’s on at McLaren.
I've no idea if he has an opportunity in Indycars ,or anywhere else but 10M is better than zero Ms.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Pericoloso said:
I've no idea if he has an opportunity in Indycars ,or anywhere else but 10M is better than zero Ms.
You are asking a guy who just did indy and its high speeds and has more money than he needs to drive a milk float. Stop being silly.

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Zak Brown said today that McLaren wouldn't be doing a full season of Indycar next year, but didn't rule out another shot at the Indy 500 for Alonso.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Hang on though, isn't Fred's constant whine been he wants more parity between cars so he can compete?

So he does LM in a car in a different class and turns his nose up at f.e. much as I don't think f.e. is all that, it would be a great opportunity for him to show everyone what they're losing, Shirley?

Blink982

767 posts

104 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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I might actually watch FE with Fred in it. Did I just write that......

BraveSirRobin

842 posts

282 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Seems like McLaren will be entering the 2019 Indy 500 with Alonso driving.
Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Are they leading the entry and building or leveraging another team and branding it?

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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I'd imagine it'll be an orange Andretti car again.

OFORBES

533 posts

100 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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BraveSirRobin said:
Seems like McLaren will be entering the 2019 Indy 500 with Alonso driving.
Don't McLaren have enough on their plate trying to get their 2019 F1 car somewhere near competitive? This is a distraction they don't need.
Thoroughly fed up of this triple-crown "quest" now. The LeMans victory was a hollow one anyway.
^^ - This.

Couldn't agree more. Zak Brown needs to get his tongue out of Alonso and focus on returning one of the most successful British F1 teams to a higher grid position rather than distracting themselves with pursuing a dream for Nando.

I understand why Fernando wants to achieve the triple crown and he perhaps wouldn't be so hung up on it if he had won more titles in F1, but McLaren need to focus on their F1 entry before going after other things...

Otherwise they will become jack of all trades, master of none in the motorsport world.

CoolHands

18,635 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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yeah but their strategy might just be to raise the name (for purpose of roadcar sales) in american consciousness, so the cost / distraction is irrelevant

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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Fernando just tucked up the Daytona 24.

Excellent performance, he was in a class of his own and really seems to be enjoying the racing.

Amazing watching him put 2 seconds a lap on the other cars at one point.

OFORBES

533 posts

100 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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He is a god.

bow

Mark-C

5,092 posts

205 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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It's a shame he's left F1 but he'd made his own position pretty much untenable.

Great to see him racking up wins elsewhere though - he was the class of the field in the rain at the Rolex 24.