The Official 2018 Belgium Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2018 Belgium Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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The question should also be about open cockpit racing in general, not just F1.

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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Sam993 said:
TobyTR said:
Sam993 said:
TobyTR said:
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TobyTR said:
ou can see Alonso's wheel rotating towards the path of Leclerc's helmet - that's clear. We're talking millimetres from something catastrophic happening in both cases.
No we're not, he would have been ok on Sunday. That's not to say that halo did or didn't help stop the wheel get closer to him.
How can you guarantee he would've been okay? You can't
He wouldn't have suffered anything "catastrophic" - as you've dramatically described - it's obvious from Hartley's onboard footage.
In your opinion. There's a lot of pro racers saying the opposite to you after watching the Hartley onboard footage - Tiff Needell, Chris Harris, Brundle etc etc

I get you're totally against Halo and that's fine and your opinion. I was against Halo too. But you can't categorically say he would've been okay.
I guess that once again confirms that pro racers aren't necessarily experts in maths and physics, eh? Looking at Hartley's onboard footage and extrapolating below two pictures it's obvious that even if he got hit it wouldn't have been catastrophic as you said originally.



Maybe not experts in maths or physics, but they're better placed to comment than you or I, having experienced it first-hand from the driver's seat. You're still playing a guessing game with an F1 driver's health... rather selfish opinion, but it's easy when sat watching from an armchair.

With an F1 wheel coming at Leclerc's head at that velocity, I don't know how you can sit there and say he'd be 'fine'. At the very least you're looking at an injury.

If you're feeling so brave and confident, how about you volunteer your services to the FIA and have them fire an F1 wheel at your head while you sit in the cockpit, let us know how you get on on... wink



Sam993

1,302 posts

73 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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TobyTR said:
Maybe not experts in maths or physics, but they're better placed to comment than you or I, having experienced it first-hand from the driver's seat. You're still playing a guessing game with an F1 driver's health... rather selfish opinion, but it's easy when sat watching from an armchair.

With an F1 wheel coming at Leclerc's head at that velocity, I don't know how you can sit there and say he'd be 'fine'. At the very least you're looking at an injury.

If you're feeling so brave and confident, how about you volunteer your services to the FIA and have them fire an F1 wheel at your head while you sit in the cockpit, let us know how you get on on... wink
They all base their opinions on the same inputs available to all of us. But they are heavily biased and don't want to be seen as not doing the "right thing" (imagine the twitter outrage had Brundle said something contrary, he'd be off Sky the following morning). That's what makes the difference. Come on Tobchen stop the drama and use you're brain, it doesn't hurt we can all vouch for it, I promise.

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Sam993 said:
TobyTR said:
Maybe not experts in maths or physics, but they're better placed to comment than you or I, having experienced it first-hand from the driver's seat. You're still playing a guessing game with an F1 driver's health... rather selfish opinion, but it's easy when sat watching from an armchair.

With an F1 wheel coming at Leclerc's head at that velocity, I don't know how you can sit there and say he'd be 'fine'. At the very least you're looking at an injury.

If you're feeling so brave and confident, how about you volunteer your services to the FIA and have them fire an F1 wheel at your head while you sit in the cockpit, let us know how you get on on... wink
They all base their opinions on the same inputs available to all of us. But they are heavily biased and don't want to be seen as not doing the "right thing" (imagine the twitter outrage had Brundle said something contrary, he'd be off Sky the following morning). That's what makes the difference. Come on Tobchen stop the drama and use you're brain, it doesn't hurt we can all vouch for it, I promise.
So Chris Harris, Tiff Needell (who was previously strongly against Halo), Alonso, Leclerc and Alexander Wurz among others are biased? You talk total nonsense on this topic and clearly not using your brain.

paua

5,762 posts

144 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Give it a rest, chaps. Some are arguing blue is black, some black is blue & some, pink is a shade of both.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Agree ,let's look forward to Monza instead, FP1 tomorrow.


Make that today ,it's gone midnight.

Sam993

1,302 posts

73 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Agreed, no point arguing about would have/could haves.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Such incredible skill. Any one of those millisecond 'moments' would have us mere mortals in a wall before we even knew it happened.

Rumblestripe

2,957 posts

163 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Making that car dance, just like Ayrton in his prime.