The Official 2018 Singapore Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
Discussion
freddytin said:
Deesee said:
Looks like Max is going to get eaten alive from those figures.Also race pace will be 10/12 seconds a lap slower.
Pirelli chatter
https://news.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/news/singapo...
& race thoughts
https://news.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/news/singapo...
& race thoughts
Edited by Deesee on Saturday 15th September 21:17
Sam993 said:
Deesee said:
OT it's unreal how much torque these PU's must have - presumably thanks to motors, he's short-shifting and going into 8 so early, it'd never be possible in the pre PU world. I'm not sure I'm liking that. Either keep it pure or all EV.Power/ES wars!!
We are already starting to see algorithms in energy deployment and engine modes (which I don’t agree with) see Max in P3, I feel the driver should control these.
Jonnny said:
Just caught up with it on Sky+.. Probably been noted but that's a cool 'Parc ferme' for Hamilton.
Very coolhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BnzDlBGBQzm/
Kraken said:
Deesee said:
It's all this sort of bks that makes me sick about modern F1. Forget all the gimmicks like that, just make cars that can race each other and tracks that punish drivers making mistakes. It's all lipstick on a pig otherwise.Nothing wrong with the racing this season IMO, and tracks like circuit of the americas, Baku that have all been added in recent seasons.
Liberty’s money it’s their business now... and they will glam it up as they please.
15 races so far, 6 to go.
Last 6 races GB to Sing
If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.
Wins | Podiums (1/2/3) | DNF Mechanical | DNF Other | Points Acc | Ave Per Race |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7/15 Lewis 5/15 Seb | 12/15 Lewis 9/15 Seb | 1/15 Lewis 0/15 Seb | 0/15 Lewis 1/15 Seb | Lewis 281 Seb 241 | Lewis 18.73 Seb 16.06 |
Last 6 races GB to Sing
Wins | Podiums (1/2/3) | DNF Mechanical | DNF Other | Points Acc | Ave Per Race |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4/6 Lewis 2/6 Seb | 6/6 Lewis 4/6 Seb | 0/6 Lewis 0/6 Seb | 0/6 Lewis 1/6 Seb | Lewis 136 Seb 95 | Lewis 22.66 Seb 15.83 |
If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.
WDC points predicted If current form continues (over the season) | WDC points predicted from last 6 races form |
---|---|
Lewis 393 Seb 337 | Lewis 417 Seb 335 |
Edited by Deesee on Monday 17th September 12:43
swisstoni said:
Deesee said:
15 races so far, 6 to go.
Last 6 races GB to Sing
If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.
Chances of anything staying the same in F1 for 5 mins - zero.Wins | Podiums (1/2/3) | DNF Mechanical | DNF Other | Points Acc | Ave Per Race |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7/15 Lewis 5/15 Seb | 12/15 Lewis 9/15 Seb | 1/15 Lewis 0/15 Seb | 0/15 Lewis 1/15 Seb | Lewis 281 Seb 241 | Lewis 18.77 Seb 16.06 |
Last 6 races GB to Sing
Wins | Podiums (1/2/3) | DNF Mechanical | DNF Other | Points Acc | Ave Per Race |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4/6 Lewis 2/6 Seb | 6/6 Lewis 4/6 Seb | 0/6 Lewis 0/6 Seb | 0/6 Lewis 1/6 Seb | Lewis 136 Seb 95 | Lewis 22.66 Seb 15.83 |
If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.
WDC points predicted If current form continues (over the season) | WDC points predicted from last 6 races form |
---|---|
Lewis 393 Seb 337 | Lewis 417 Seb 335 |
It's easy to underestimate how massively Ferrari have messed up in the last couple of outings.
They really have made the Mercs look a lot better than they are.
Surely can't keep this level of cock-up going for the rest of the season.
Merc/Hamilton have stepped up without a doubt, they've got this feeling of finishing races, normally on the podium.
Yes, they shouldn't but can't see them getting the better of Hamilton at Suzuka or COTA.
Championships maybe were decided with one or two mistakes, Seb has 4x above all of his own doing.
Edited by Deesee on Monday 17th September 13:08
Angpozzuto said:
I think the odds of Ferrari and vettel coming back and taking the championships is very long but it's racing and anything can happen, but on a positive note Ferrari have really upped their game with reliability I don't think they've had any mechanical retirements this season unlike last season
Kimi has had 3 retirements, granted only one was PU related (Spain), Belgium was DRS, and Bahrain was the pit stop incident.Been very reliable.
wibble cb said:
REALIST123 said:
HTP99 said:
37chevy said:
wibble cb said:
Hamilton can now afford to not fight say Verstappen for wins, so long as he finishes ahead of Vettel...Just a thought.
Not that comfortable yet. 1 retirement for Hamilton and losing a few points here and there and he could give Vettel the championship. Just carry on driving like he has been doing methinksFlooble said:
Deesee said:
The rumour was infact that Hamilton was using an older spec engine in Singapore, as the race pace was known to be slower (so less stress on the PU) so they would not need all the bells and whistles, the latest engine (3rd if the allocation) was already one race fresher than Sebastian’s 3rd allocated, so could actually be 2 races fresher now.
Are you sure about that? I thought they both took new "Spec 3" engines for Spa and hence both "Spec 3" engines are two races old (Spa and Monza)? Hamilton does/did have one "spare" race on his "Spec 2" engine, as Mercedes messed up their quality control and weren't able to introduce it in Canada when Ferrari brought their "Spec 2", Mercedes therefore having to run seven races in a row on their "Spec 1".
So that "spare" race may come in to play if the "Spec 3" units can't cover Spa-Monza-Russia-Japan-USA-Mexico-Brazil-Abu Dhabi (8 races). However, it was always going to the be the case that to manage 21 races on 3 engines equally, you'd need the engines to do seven races each, but Ferrari swapped from "Spec 1" to "Spec 2" after only six races and again "Spec 2" to "Spec 3" after another six.
I was under the impression most teams tend to use an "old" spec for Monaco and Singapore since neither race pushes the engine hard. Monaco will have been "Spec 1" for both of them, so it's possible some of Mercedes sudden advantage was using their "Spec 2" in Singapore while Ferrari reverted to the "Spec 1" to even out the wear on their engine allocation; since Ferrari only had six races on their "Spec 1" it would be logical to use it in Singapore, while Mercedes only had five races on their "Spec 2" but seven on their "Spec 1", thus logical to use the "Spec 2".
It also suggests that in order to avoid pushing the "Spec 3" to eight races, both teams are going to be using "Spec 2" again somewhere. If Mercedes were using their "Spec 2" then Hamilton being able to cruise around turned down to the minimum could be very useful (Ferrari's Spec 2 having been pushed much harder in Canada, when Mercedes were still on Spec 1; and Mercedes Spec 2 having also failed to complete the race distance in Austria while Ferrari's went all the way).
Yes both drivers introduced the 3rd pu at Belgium, Im thinking PU no 2 and getting the races in a muddle, and had totally forgotten that the 3rd pu's were in place at Belgium. Apologies to everyone & anyone if any wires crossed on my post.
DanielSan said:
kambites said:
How did Vettel's out lap compare to everyone else's? I think it was just very hard to turn the tyres on, especially on the Ferrari.
I’m sure his first sector or two were some of the quickest in the race, but then he caught Perez whose times were falling off a cliff and got stuck behind him in sector 3 Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff