The Official 2018 Singapore Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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LDN said:

Holy st. That lap was inch perfect at every turn... did you see the speed trap? Hamilton was 4th or 5th - the ferraris being the fastest; Kimi I think fastest.

Just a genius lap.

Speed Traps/Section Speeds (max)

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freddytin said:

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Speed Traps/Section Speeds (max)

Looks like Max is going to get eaten alive from those figures.

He’s electric in the corners, he will need the battery to defend in the drs zone, as we know he not one to lie down and get passed.

Also race pace will be 10/12 seconds a lap slower.

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Pirelli chatter

https://news.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/news/singapo...


& race thoughts

Edited by Deesee on Saturday 15th September 21:17

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Sam993 said:

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AI3JzYCL3K0

OT it's unreal how much torque these PU's must have - presumably thanks to motors, he's short-shifting and going into 8 so early, it'd never be possible in the pre PU world. I'm not sure I'm liking that. Either keep it pure or all EV.

My view is the next “manufacturer” to come in will be not be a car maker but a battery provider, if they allow unlimited electrical energy (generated by car) to be deployed at will we could have seriously quick cars.

Power/ES wars!!

We are already starting to see algorithms in energy deployment and engine modes (which I don’t agree with) see Max in P3, I feel the driver should control these.

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SmoothCriminal said:

Vettel 40 seconds back from Hamilton.

That has got to hurt.

40pts that might hurt a little more

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Jonnny said:

Just caught up with it on Sky+.. Probably been noted but that's a cool 'Parc ferme' for Hamilton.

Very cool

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnzDlBGBQzm/

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Kraken said:

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Very cool

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnzDlBGBQzm/

It's all this sort of bks that makes me sick about modern F1. Forget all the gimmicks like that, just make cars that can race each other and tracks that punish drivers making mistakes. It's all lipstick on a pig otherwise.

If you don’t like it don’t watch it, get some VHS of the good old days, when Marshalls and Drivers regularly got injured, and apart from one or two highlights in the season it was very processional.

Nothing wrong with the racing this season IMO, and tracks like circuit of the americas, Baku that have all been added in recent seasons.

Liberty’s money it’s their business now... and they will glam it up as they please.

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15 races so far, 6 to go.

Wins	Podiums (1/2/3)	DNF Mechanical	DNF Other	Points Acc	Ave Per Race
7/15 Lewis 5/15 Seb	12/15 Lewis 9/15 Seb	1/15 Lewis 0/15 Seb	0/15 Lewis 1/15 Seb	Lewis 281 Seb 241	Lewis 18.73 Seb 16.06

Last 6 races GB to Sing

Wins	Podiums (1/2/3)	DNF Mechanical	DNF Other	Points Acc	Ave Per Race
4/6 Lewis 2/6 Seb	6/6 Lewis 4/6 Seb	0/6 Lewis 0/6 Seb	0/6 Lewis 1/6 Seb	Lewis 136 Seb 95	Lewis 22.66 Seb 15.83

If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.

WDC points predicted If current form continues (over the season)	WDC points predicted from last 6 races form
Lewis 393 Seb 337	Lewis 417 Seb 335

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swisstoni said:

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15 races so far, 6 to go.

Wins	Podiums (1/2/3)	DNF Mechanical	DNF Other	Points Acc	Ave Per Race
7/15 Lewis 5/15 Seb	12/15 Lewis 9/15 Seb	1/15 Lewis 0/15 Seb	0/15 Lewis 1/15 Seb	Lewis 281 Seb 241	Lewis 18.77 Seb 16.06

Last 6 races GB to Sing

Wins	Podiums (1/2/3)	DNF Mechanical	DNF Other	Points Acc	Ave Per Race
4/6 Lewis 2/6 Seb	6/6 Lewis 4/6 Seb	0/6 Lewis 0/6 Seb	0/6 Lewis 1/6 Seb	Lewis 136 Seb 95	Lewis 22.66 Seb 15.83

If the last 6 races are reversed, Seb wins by a point.

WDC points predicted If current form continues (over the season)	WDC points predicted from last 6 races form
Lewis 393 Seb 337	Lewis 417 Seb 335

Chances of anything staying the same in F1 for 5 mins - zero.

It's easy to underestimate how massively Ferrari have messed up in the last couple of outings.
They really have made the Mercs look a lot better than they are.
Surely can't keep this level of cock-up going for the rest of the season.

China (not his fault), Italy, Azerbaijan & France were points thrown away 3 collisions and a botched safety car restart overtake, let alone Germany were he bins it by himself.

Merc/Hamilton have stepped up without a doubt, they've got this feeling of finishing races, normally on the podium.

Yes, they shouldn't but can't see them getting the better of Hamilton at Suzuka or COTA.

Championships maybe were decided with one or two mistakes, Seb has 4x above all of his own doing.

Edited by Deesee on Monday 17th September 13:08

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Angpozzuto said:

I think the odds of Ferrari and vettel coming back and taking the championships is very long but it's racing and anything can happen, but on a positive note Ferrari have really upped their game with reliability I don't think they've had any mechanical retirements this season unlike last season

Kimi has had 3 retirements, granted only one was PU related (Spain), Belgium was DRS, and Bahrain was the pit stop incident.

Been very reliable.

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Looks like Seb/Ferrari have doubled down on the hyper soft tyre strategy for Sochi

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wibble cb said:

REALIST123 said:

HTP99 said:

37chevy said:

wibble cb said:

Hamilton can now afford to not fight say Verstappen for wins, so long as he finishes ahead of Vettel...Just a thought.

Not that comfortable yet. 1 retirement for Hamilton and losing a few points here and there and he could give Vettel the championship. Just carry on driving like he has been doing methinks

Yep, change your approach and this is when mistakes happen.

Hard to think of where he’d need to fight too hard to keep ahead of a RedBull, the rest of this year, with his power advantage.

Another way to look at it that maybe Mercedes have turned up Hamilton’s engine mode to 11 to build this cushion, surely at some point reliability might come into it, has Hamilton got any penalty free components left in his allocation? Just playing devils advocate, he may need to be more circumspect in future races, and to a degree now has that luxury.

The rumour was infact that Hamilton was using an older spec engine in Singapore, as the race pace was known to be slower (so less stress on the PU) so they would not need all the bells and whistles, the latest engine (3rd if the allocation) was already one race fresher than Sebastian’s 3rd allocated, so could actually be 2 races fresher now.

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Flooble said:

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The rumour was infact that Hamilton was using an older spec engine in Singapore, as the race pace was known to be slower (so less stress on the PU) so they would not need all the bells and whistles, the latest engine (3rd if the allocation) was already one race fresher than Sebastian’s 3rd allocated, so could actually be 2 races fresher now.

Are you sure about that? I thought they both took new "Spec 3" engines for Spa and hence both "Spec 3" engines are two races old (Spa and Monza)?

Hamilton does/did have one "spare" race on his "Spec 2" engine, as Mercedes messed up their quality control and weren't able to introduce it in Canada when Ferrari brought their "Spec 2", Mercedes therefore having to run seven races in a row on their "Spec 1".

So that "spare" race may come in to play if the "Spec 3" units can't cover Spa-Monza-Russia-Japan-USA-Mexico-Brazil-Abu Dhabi (8 races). However, it was always going to the be the case that to manage 21 races on 3 engines equally, you'd need the engines to do seven races each, but Ferrari swapped from "Spec 1" to "Spec 2" after only six races and again "Spec 2" to "Spec 3" after another six.

I was under the impression most teams tend to use an "old" spec for Monaco and Singapore since neither race pushes the engine hard. Monaco will have been "Spec 1" for both of them, so it's possible some of Mercedes sudden advantage was using their "Spec 2" in Singapore while Ferrari reverted to the "Spec 1" to even out the wear on their engine allocation; since Ferrari only had six races on their "Spec 1" it would be logical to use it in Singapore, while Mercedes only had five races on their "Spec 2" but seven on their "Spec 1", thus logical to use the "Spec 2".

It also suggests that in order to avoid pushing the "Spec 3" to eight races, both teams are going to be using "Spec 2" again somewhere. If Mercedes were using their "Spec 2" then Hamilton being able to cruise around turned down to the minimum could be very useful (Ferrari's Spec 2 having been pushed much harder in Canada, when Mercedes were still on Spec 1; and Mercedes Spec 2 having also failed to complete the race distance in Austria while Ferrari's went all the way).

Not now I've rechecked!

Yes both drivers introduced the 3rd pu at Belgium, Im thinking PU no 2 and getting the races in a muddle, and had totally forgotten that the 3rd pu's were in place at Belgium. Apologies to everyone & anyone if any wires crossed on my post.

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The Merc F1 debrief, pure pit wall..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6snQ5R-0GaI

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DanielSan said:

kambites said:

How did Vettel's out lap compare to everyone else's? I think it was just very hard to turn the tyres on, especially on the Ferrari.

I’m sure his first sector or two were some of the quickest in the race, but then he caught Perez whose times were falling off a cliff and got stuck behind him in sector 3

Lewis 44 Seb 5 Max 33 Kimi 7 Valtteri 77 in and out times, with gaps

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Pole lap on the 360 camera, played at normal speed!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83mb5Erd8ZY