Alonso comeback

Alonso comeback

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Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Gaz. said:
Evangelion said:
37chevy said:
...Do you really think Fangio would have the mental and physical ability to drive one of today’s highly sophisticated cars with huge cornering g forces?...
He'd wipe the floor with them! As would Clark, Hawthorn, Ascari, Moss, Nuvolari and many others you've probably never heard of.
You couldn't possibly know that.
Rose coloured spectacles

They were certainly brave in those days but not sure they would have the physical and mental ability to be competitive in modern era cars

Vaud

50,510 posts

155 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Exige77 said:
Rose coloured spectacles

They were certainly brave in those days but not sure they would have the physical and mental ability to be competitive in modern era cars
Quite. They drank, smoked, had a very low fitness level.
Possibly took performance drugs (as was rife in cycling) - e.g. benzedrine

Jasandjules

69,904 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Anyways in a short of hope attempt to get this back on topic...

Alonso on Sky today pretty much said in 2020 he might be back in an F1 car and he has "options" or some words to that effect.......

Muzzer79

9,979 posts

187 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Jasandjules said:
Anyways in a short of hope attempt to get this back on topic...

Alonso on Sky today pretty much said in 2020 he might be back in an F1 car and he has "options" or some words to that effect.......
Just like Button when he left

And Hakkinen when he stopped

Once you step off the train, it’s very difficult to get back on it, if you even want to. Not spending the majority of the year on planes and in hotels has an appeal if you’ve done it long enough.

With the amount of driver movement for next year, if someone wanted him, they’d have him for 2019.

thegreenhell

15,354 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Muzzer79 said:
With the amount of driver movement for next year, if someone wanted him, they’d have him for 2019.
Maybe McLaren will want him back when Sainz starts getting beaten regularly by teenage teammate.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Maybe McLaren will want him back when Sainz starts getting beaten regularly by teenage teammate.
I really worry about McLaren in 2019.

If the car is not any better they will be in huge trouble.

Sainz is not Alonso so Mclaren better hope Lando Norris is the real deal.

It will either be Williams or McLaren at the bottom of the pile at the end of 2019 frown

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Watching the 2003 itv season review on you tube, Ross brawn actually said alonso shouldn't criticise his team in public.....so the writing was on the wall even 15 years ago...

TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
TobyTR said:
'93 Australian grand prix: "Despite being the fastest qualifier in his Ford V8-powered McLaren, Senna was some 15 km/h slower on the 890m-long Brabham Straight than the Renault V10-powered Williams of Hill"...

Number-one insecurities could be said for most of the great drivers too, certainly Hamilton is in a better space now he has a clear number 2. But it wasn't long ago Button and Rosberg managed to get into Hamilton's head... Hamilton had his most insecure years with Button as teammate. none of the super-ambitious drivers particularly like it.

2014 Ferrari didn't set out with a clear number 1 & 2 with Alonso and Raikkonen, but they didn't have to, as Alonso had wiped the floor with him by half way through the season
I wouldn't look at top speed to compare F1 cars around a track. If you look at this year's Mercedes, it didn't feature in the top 6 or 7 on top speed at many tracks. In Canada, ithink that Hamilton was 17km/h slower than Perez. I was surprised how many times the Mercs weren't making the top 6.
15kmh difference on a straight is still massive. It's the difference between the Mercs and this year's McLaren consistently, for example. The '93 Williams was the class of the field without a doubt, just like in '92. Hence why it was the most dominant. Senna even said to Frank he'd drive it for free.

Here's a few quotes on Alonso I found interesting:

Jenson Button: "In many ways, Fernando was an even tougher team-mate than Lewis was. There were days when Lewis would just do something amazing, but there were other days when you got everything right and you'd wonder where he'd gone... With Fernando, there were never any days like that. If he was behind you, he'd always be pushing you like crazy. If he was ahead of you, then you'd be hanging on."

Andrea Stella, Ferrari race engineer: "Our collaboration over the years was very positive. He was relaxed and open to our ways of working at Ferrari. I think he is much cleverer than me. In the race I'd say "we need to do something" and he would come back with an answer I'd never have thought of. And he could do it while driving."

Pat Symonds, Renault technical boss 2002-2009: "Fernando is very clever but very laid back, and in the early days this could mask his intensity. In a briefing you'd think he wasn't paying attention and then he would ask an incredibly pertinent question that showed he was really digging deep. There's a lot of capacity when driving, too. He set the fastest lap at the Canadian grand prix one year and was talking to us all the way round the lap about some aspects of the race."



95 fiesta si

1,600 posts

152 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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It will either be Williams or McLaren at the bottom of the pile at the end of 2019 frown
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and what a shame that is given the history of both teams