The Official USA GP 2018 thread *spoilers*

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waynecyclist said:

Not sure if true but rumours flying around that Mercedes were forced to change rear wheel design at the 11th hour after Ferrari complained to the FIA.

If true it might explain Mercedes's struggles.

Heard that too Merc & would not have taken any chances, but the wheels would have been in the UK so like you unsure of the truth in that..

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waynecyclist said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Not sure if true but rumours flying around that Mercedes were forced to change rear wheel design at the 11th hour after Ferrari complained to the FIA.

If true it might explain Mercedes's struggles.

Heard that too Merc & would not have taken any chances, but the wheels would have been in the UK so like you unsure of the truth in that..

Unless they had to block them up somehow

God know what with then, the break temps on carbon fibre units must be sky high.

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Bullitt Five-Oh said:

Polite M135 driver said:

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

My personal highlight of the weekend is the frankly absurd and unreal "neeeeeoooww, neeeeeeooooooow" sound courtesy of the camera people in the helicopter, repeated multiple times during the race. Hamerica people!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEtS2GwoZ0

I don't think the sound can be from helicopter people, there is no sound of the helicopter? normally the height shots are accompanied by sort of 'ambient sound' - maybe microphones around the track/at each corner>

since it was on the world feed my guess would be a marshall or some other track worker making the noises near a mic. Can't believe anyone involved in the production would be unprofessional enough to 'ruin' the broadcast like that...

You're right there would be helicopter noise there. Which makes it even more ridiculous.

It will be the same people who did that massive eagle a few years back..

The F1 social media team are all over it

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpO9jkSHsr_/?hl=en&amp...

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Great first lap here from the much maligned Hartley.

Some of the corners resemble driving through a demolition derby.

8 places gained and the best sounding PU on the Grid?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.cutting...

Super drive from him.

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enjo said:

Deesee said:

Great first lap here from the much maligned Hartley.

Some of the corners resemble driving through a demolition derby.

8 places gained and the best sounding PU on the Grid?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.cutting...

Super drive from him.

The McLaren being passed on both sides by Honda powered cars must've stung them a bit!

Breezed pass, 1st lap so no DRS just pure grunt
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enjo said:

Deesee said:

Breezed pass, 1st lap so no DRS just pure grunt
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To be fair SV caught a massive bit of oversteer coming out of the corner but my point still stands!

Absolutely!

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LaurasOtherHalf said:

Deesee said:

enjo said:

Deesee said:

Great first lap here from the much maligned Hartley.

Some of the corners resemble driving through a demolition derby.

8 places gained and the best sounding PU on the Grid?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.cutting...

Super drive from him.

The McLaren being passed on both sides by Honda powered cars must've stung them a bit!

Breezed pass, 1st lap so no DRS just pure grunt
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Ok I disagree 100%

Hartley drives the first sector like miss daisy. You could give him the benifit of the doubt and say he was letting others knock them selves out but if no one else crashed he’d have been last by at least a second by the end of sector 2.

The first McLaren gets shunted out the way and the second gets hit coming onto the back straight compromising his exit.

Hartley made up a lot of places that lap but if no one had crashed on the first lap he wouldn’t have been within a second of The man in second last. I know, you make your own luck and all that but I can’t help theinking he’s not cut out for F1.

The pass on the 'S's", Class...

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waynecyclist said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Not sure if true but rumours flying around that Mercedes were forced to change rear wheel design at the 11th hour after Ferrari complained to the FIA.

If true it might explain Mercedes's struggles.

Heard that too Merc & would not have taken any chances, but the wheels would have been in the UK so like you unsure of the truth in that..

Unless they had to block them up somehow

Silicone eh!

Did not think that would withstand those temps see below

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Jbliss said:

those are Redbull rims on the right.

If so I have been led astray, and duped.

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sparta6 said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Not sure if true but rumours flying around that Mercedes were forced to change rear wheel design at the 11th hour after Ferrari complained to the FIA.

If true it might explain Mercedes's struggles.

Heard that too Merc & would not have taken any chances, but the wheels would have been in the UK so like you unsure of the truth in that..

Unless they had to block them up somehow

Silicone eh!

Did not think that would withstand those temps see below

So as a moving aero device are these extra vents legal or illegal ?

Williams and Red Bull have both had designs banned in previous seasons.

FIA say they are fine, but Merc don’t want Ferrari to be able to lodge a protest post race and risk a DQ.

clarification will surely be given this weekend.

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HTP99 said:

sparta6 said:

Deesee said:

sparta6 said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Deesee said:

waynecyclist said:

Not sure if true but rumours flying around that Mercedes were forced to change rear wheel design at the 11th hour after Ferrari complained to the FIA.

If true it might explain Mercedes's struggles.

Heard that too Merc & would not have taken any chances, but the wheels would have been in the UK so like you unsure of the truth in that..

Unless they had to block them up somehow

Silicone eh!

Did not think that would withstand those temps see below

So as a moving aero device are these extra vents legal or illegal ?

Williams and Red Bull have both had designs banned in previous seasons.

FIA say they are fine, but Merc don’t want Ferrari to be able to lodge a protest post race and risk a DQ.

clarification will surely be given this weekend.

You gotta love these never ending FIA grey areas

I do think it's odd that the FIA can inspect and say its fine but the stewards at any given race can have the final say, if a complait is lodged.

My personal favourite (grey area) is the width of floor, so get around it they put those gaps/slots in. Outrageous bending of the rules.

The FIA will have access to wind tunnel and specifications and also rational as to why a team is doing something, however sometimes a modification can have ‘other’ benefits..

Mark Hughes has confirmed in his race report that Merc has a balance problem after changing the water pumps.

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Edited by Deesee on Wednesday 24th October 10:17

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Well Brendon thought it went ok.