The Official USA GP 2018 thread *spoilers*

[thegreenhell]

Deesee said:

Track designer gives an Astro run off, FIA put in a speed bump, though track limits were the white painted line.

And this is why it's needed

[kambites]

I thought the track limits said you had to have one wheel inside the white line. It looks quite possible to be within the track limits by that definition and still hit that bump. Not that that's really a problem as long as the drivers know it's there any more than a wall which you can hit without leaving the track is.

[Deesee]

thegreenhell said:

Deesee said:

Track designer gives an Astro run off, FIA put in a speed bump, though track limits were the white painted line.

And this is why it's needed

Excessive to me, the 5 second time penalty max got was more in line of the crime of exceeding track limits & overtaking.

Can’t remember what the ride heights are on these cars but the bumps are circa 50mm high.. at 270kph they’ll be airborne..

[Deesee]

kambites said:

I thought the track limits said you had to have one wheel inside the white line. It looks quite possible to be within the track limits by that definition and still hit that bump. Not that that's really a problem as long as the drivers know it's there any more than a wall which you can hit without leaving the track is.

Me too, these have been placed all over the track including the exit of turn one, where almost everyone goes wide on lap one.

[Nickp82]

thegreenhell said:

So what do you suggest instead? Do they just stand there in silence, or should they be allowed to choose their own theme song?

Surely they can follow Lewis/XNDA's lead and bust out some sick bars? There's your podium and post-race concert sorted in one go.

Kimi could be particularly entertaining as a rapper

[rallycross]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

66% chance of rain on Saturday and 58% Sunday, could get interesting...

widespread flooding in Texas, including Austin county looks bad: https://youtu.be/cWlrWETj2DQ

[thegreenhell]

Deesee said:

Excessive to me, the 5 second time penalty max got was more in line of the crime of exceeding track limits & overtaking.

Can’t remember what the ride heights are on these cars but the bumps are circa 50mm high.. at 270kph they’ll be airborne..

Deesee said:

kambites said:

I thought the track limits said you had to have one wheel inside the white line. It looks quite possible to be within the track limits by that definition and still hit that bump. Not that that's really a problem as long as the drivers know it's there any more than a wall which you can hit without leaving the track is.

Me too, these have been placed all over the track including the exit of turn one, where almost everyone goes wide on lap one.

Do you understand the concept of a deterrent? If the drivers know that these things are there and they will cause a painful/damaging airborne moment then they should be able to avoid running off track so far.

Personally I'd rather they got rid of all this smooth tarmac runoff, so the temptation to continually run wide onto it is removed completely.

[Gary29]

Deesee said:

270kph corner (16/17) don’t wanna catch one of these.... ouch..

Ahhh Max Blockers!

[Deesee]

thegreenhell said:

Deesee said:

Excessive to me, the 5 second time penalty max got was more in line of the crime of exceeding track limits & overtaking.

Can’t remember what the ride heights are on these cars but the bumps are circa 50mm high.. at 270kph they’ll be airborne..

Deesee said:

kambites said:

I thought the track limits said you had to have one wheel inside the white line. It looks quite possible to be within the track limits by that definition and still hit that bump. Not that that's really a problem as long as the drivers know it's there any more than a wall which you can hit without leaving the track is.

Me too, these have been placed all over the track including the exit of turn one, where almost everyone goes wide on lap one.

Do you understand the concept of a deterrent? If the drivers know that these things are there and they will cause a painful/damaging airborne moment then they should be able to avoid running off track so far.

Personally I'd rather they got rid of all this smooth tarmac runoff, so the temptation to continually run wide onto it is removed completely.

Yes but the run offs are there rightfully to avoid high speed collisions, wrongfully drivers may abuse the limits, time penalty as are the answers here, this could be easily tracked by GPS.

& personally I agree remove the Astro put grass in or bigger/abrasive curbs, temporary measures are not the answer, I fear we will see someone wheel to wheel at high speed and some one ‘closes the door’ to put someone into one of these.

[Bullitt Five-Oh]

Deesee said:

270kph corner (16/17) don’t wanna catch one of these.... ouch..

This is beyond stupid. The track design is messed up and they should change track limits to fix it not install this rocket launcher there. Why can't the astroturf simply start where the curb ends?

[sparta6]

thegreenhell said:

So what do you suggest instead? Do they just stand there in silence, or should they be allowed to choose their own theme song?

Just ditch the Team national anthems.

The German one for Mercedes is a joke.

Edited by sparta6 on Thursday 18th October 12:09

[sparta6]

Gary29 said:

Ahhh Max Blockers!

Blatantly Bespoke !

[Derek Smith]

thegreenhell said:

So what do you suggest instead? Do they just stand there in silence, or should they be allowed to choose their own theme song?

I've been to a few motor races where there's no music played at the presentation. I didn't miss it. It's an anachronism. Way back, it was a way to push nationalistic tendencies. It seems a shame we haven't move on.

[Bullitt Five-Oh]

Derek Smith said:

thegreenhell said:

So what do you suggest instead? Do they just stand there in silence, or should they be allowed to choose their own theme song?

I've been to a few motor races where there's no music played at the presentation. I didn't miss it. It's an anachronism. Way back, it was a way to push nationalistic tendencies. It seems a shame we haven't move on.

What if these anthems were to be sung by a half Jewish half Catholic transgender binary gay person from who identifies as British muslim? Would that be progressive enough to tickle your taste buds?

[Derek Smith]

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

What if these anthems were to be sung by a half Jewish half Catholic transgender binary gay person from who identifies as British muslim? Would that be progressive enough to tickle your taste buds?

Thanks you for your insightful commentary on the matter.

[Bullitt Five-Oh]

Derek Smith said:

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

What if these anthems were to be sung by a half Jewish half Catholic transgender binary gay person from who identifies as British muslim? Would that be progressive enough to tickle your taste buds?

Thanks you for your insightful commentary on the matter.

No worries.

[sparta6]

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

Derek Smith said:

thegreenhell said:

So what do you suggest instead? Do they just stand there in silence, or should they be allowed to choose their own theme song?

I've been to a few motor races where there's no music played at the presentation. I didn't miss it. It's an anachronism. Way back, it was a way to push nationalistic tendencies. It seems a shame we haven't move on.

What if these anthems were to be sung by a half Jewish half Catholic transgender binary gay person from who identifies as British muslim? Would that be progressive enough to tickle your taste buds?

In these days of brass plaques and finance flow from places such as Kuwait, national anthems are misrepresentational for the Teams.

It's bad enough for drivers if they are doing a Rusedski etc
We should actually be hearing the Monaco national anthem for most drivers anyway

[The Surveyor]

thegreenhell said:

Do you understand the concept of a deterrent? If the drivers know that these things are there and they will cause a painful/damaging airborne moment then they should be able to avoid running off track so far.

Personally I'd rather they got rid of all this smooth tarmac runoff, so the temptation to continually run wide onto it is removed completely.

A deterrent will only work for somebody who is deliberately trying to cut the corner, if somebody is squeezed out in a racing incident, or there's a crash where one car locks-up under breaking, that deterrent become a hazard.

I do agree on the removal of the run-off on the inside of this corner though.

[Drew106]

Derek Smith said:

I've been to a few motor races where there's no music played at the presentation. I didn't miss it. It's an anachronism. Way back, it was a way to push nationalistic tendencies. It seems a shame we haven't move on.

It is possible to have a bit patriotism and not be a twunt.

[carinaman]

I'm sure they still play the national anthems at the Rugger Derek.