The Official 2018 Mexican GP *** Spoilers***

[Vaud]

cb1965 said:

The aero upgrades downgrades have come off and the 'second sensor' is still on and their performance is back.

FTFY

[Europa1]

djstevec said:

Grahamdub said:

The Lotus Damon was driving is gorgeous. He looked so much like his Dad too.

My god Damon was the spitting image of his father when he was sat in the car in the garage.

I'm getting old and soft as I shed a tear in that superb piece.

Muchas Gracias indeed Sky F1.

I thoroughly enjoyed that segment too, and also got a lump in the throat - when he pulled the scarf up over the lower part of his face, open face LRC-colours helmet, just before he pulled the goggles down. I believe the car is now owned by Clive Chapman.

[Oilchange]

Anyone got a cheeky link to it, I’d very much like to see it?

[JonChalk]

NRS said:

It was a risk to stay too though. Remember that season McLaren were messing up the strategy basically every time he had the chance to win from memory.

Plus doing stupid things like leaving the fan in the sidepod of JB's car at Monaco and not screwing on wheels properly.

[PDP76]

StevieBee said:

nyxster said:

I think Mercedes are in for a rougher ride next year. Marchionne death mid season caused a lot of upheaval at the factory but there is no doubt from Suday’s result that the red cars have the measure of Mercedes now and Toto’s admitted the Ferrari PU is now the most powerful on the grid.

You may be right but the same has been said for at least the past two years yet nothing really changes.

Marchione's death would unlikely to have had any impact in performance or results. That's just not how such organisations work; they are set up so that such occurrences do not influence things. And don't forget that Mercedes has been without Lauda for at least half the season.

I still find it strange how Ferrari's slight dip on performance coincided with the FIA starting to monitor battery usage.

Simple really, the car wasn’t legal. It was running battery power into the hybrid system to gain bhp. Very very clever idea, but not legal. So they binned it when the fia wanted a look.

[Deesee]

Oilchange said:

Anyone got a cheeky link to it, I’d very much like to see it?

I’ll post the links below

(I have not checked all but should work)

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/11...

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/11...

[TonyToniTone]

PDP76 said:

Simple really, the car wasn’t legal. It was running battery power into the hybrid system to gain bhp. Very very clever idea, but not legal. So they binned it when the fia wanted a look.

Do you have any proof to back this up?

[Doink]

I have it on good authority that the head of ERS at Ferrari is ex zytek who were the go to people in the recent past for anything to do with batteries and electric motors, they where using twin batteries back when they designed and built McLarens KERS and look how good that was, it was known then that you could get more power from 2 smaller batteries than 1 big one

[MKnight702]

What is it with Red Bull and their Australian spec car, they did the same to Weber.

[davidd]

Deesee said:

I’ll post the links below

(I have not checked all but should work)

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/11...

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/11...

Thanks for posting those..

[AW111]

MKnight702 said:

What is it with Red Bull and their Australian spec car, they did the same to Weber.

They don't like the number two driver outshining their current golden boy?

[johnxjsc1985]

Didn't Hamilton suffer similar problems in Rosbergs winning year.
With all the Data available to teams it is hard to believe that they don't understand the problems that Danny Ric has had as apposed to Max.Maybe his leaving and going to Renault means he knows it isn't a problem with his engine.
I note that nobody from Red Bull Horner in particular complained about Max's engine.

[HustleRussell]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Didn't Hamilton suffer similar problems in Rosbergs winning year.
With all the Data available to teams it is hard to believe that they don't understand the problems that Danny Ric has had as apposed to Max.Maybe his leaving and going to Renault means he knows it isn't a problem with his engine.
I note that nobody from Red Bull Horner in particular complained about Max's engine.

Firstly Horner did somewhat begrudgingly praise Renault for providing Red Bull with a winning engine on Sunday.

Secondly, Ricciardo's retirement was not related to Renault.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

AW111 said:

They don't like the number two driver outshining their current golden boy?

To think that they would deliberately sabotage their own car from a points-winning position, when points in the WCC mean so much money, is utter tinfoil hattery

[2fast748]

Derek Smith said:

Saward was way, way off.

Saward just comes across as such an arrogant tool it's nice to see him proven so wrong!

[Deesee]

HustleRussell said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

Didn't Hamilton suffer similar problems in Rosbergs winning year.
With all the Data available to teams it is hard to believe that they don't understand the problems that Danny Ric has had as apposed to Max.Maybe his leaving and going to Renault means he knows it isn't a problem with his engine.
I note that nobody from Red Bull Horner in particular complained about Max's engine.

Firstly Horner did somewhat begrudgingly praise Renault for providing Red Bull with a winning engine on Sunday.

Secondly, Ricciardo's retirement was not related to Renault.

Clutch Failure, caused by Red Bull hydraulics....

Then this happened off camera (watch from 45 secs)..

https://streamable.com/wdtcu

[AW111]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

AW111 said:

They don't like the number two driver outshining their current golden boy?

To think that they would deliberately sabotage their own car from a points-winning position, when points in the WCC mean so much money, is utter tinfoil hattery

I agree completely.
But this is an F1 thread

[rj2k11]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Brundle just said exactly what I was thinking - pit-to-car telemetry is banned, surely? The message to Verstappen that they have now turned down his engine makes no sense. Unless they gave him a setting and we didn't hear that bit of the radio. Still an odd thing to say though.

That's what I heard too. The team said they had turned the engine down, Verstappen then checked again with them on radio asking if they had turned the engine down, they confirmed they had. I thought it was strange that no more was made of it, as I presumed pit to car communications was banned a long time ago.

Perhaps I heard it incorrectly, but that's how it came across during the race.

[p1stonhead]

rj2k11 said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Brundle just said exactly what I was thinking - pit-to-car telemetry is banned, surely? The message to Verstappen that they have now turned down his engine makes no sense. Unless they gave him a setting and we didn't hear that bit of the radio. Still an odd thing to say though.

That's what I heard too. The team said they had turned the engine down, Verstappen then checked again with them on radio asking if they had turned the engine down, they confirmed they had. I thought it was strange that no more was made of it, as I presumed pit to car communications was banned a long time ago.

Perhaps I heard it incorrectly, but that's how it came across during the race.

Presumably they told him 'do xxxx' and then they confirmed that what they did was turning the engine down.

Anything else would have been surely subject to investigation straight away. I assume the data shows the same.

[Mr Pointy]

2fast748 said:

Derek Smith said:

Saward was way, way off.

Saward just comes across as such an arrogant tool it's nice to see him proven so wrong!

I'd love someone to post that comment he wrote back to his own blog. I doubt it would stay up long.