Vietnamese Grand Prix 2020

Vietnamese Grand Prix 2020

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TheDeuce

3,938 posts

15 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BigBen said:
I am actually of the opinion that the quality of the racing matters a lot less when you are there, it is more about the atmosphere. For instance I did Monaco one year and it was great despite the race undoubtedly being a snooze fest on TV.
I do enjoy Monaco, but let's remember that much of the atmosphere is passion - for as long as any resident or frequent visitor can remember, part of Monaco is having the streets scream with racing cars each year. It's like F1 coming home, it's fully welcomed in Monaco and no complaints.

That same passion isn't as ingrained in Vietnam, the heritage isn't there. That's not to say that being there wouldn't be very satisfying - I would go to all races, except France, if I could. But like most of us, I can't, so need to be selective.

I don't think a crap race weekend at Hanoi will be quite as satisfying as one in Monaco - but having said that, I do hope one of the PH members goes and reports back, for all I know it could be excellent as a race and race venue..

TheDeuce

3,938 posts

15 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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REALIST123 said:
Incidentally, the whole of the above is why I’ll likely never go to Paul Ricard....... for me it will always fail on both measures..........
Well we posted simultaneously yet both remembered to call out the French GP as an exception biggrin

My god, that apocalyptic turdfest needs to be ditched. Even this season, best for years, and still the French GP was unaffected. It's impossible to elevate something so unutterably wky.

romeodelta

260 posts

110 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Same thoughts here too.

Going to see how the first race pans out and pencil it in for 2021.

coppice

5,664 posts

93 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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I haven't been to Ricard for decades , but whilst it wasn't Spa, the circuit was not as bad as some , but it does seem to have become fashionable to sneer at it . The area is gorgeous , fabulous food of course (it's Provence, so it would be) and at least it is in a country with huge racing heritage,and not some godforsaken Middle East sheikdom . .

That said, my chief memory is the sight of little groups of ..err..working girls at every crossroads near the circuit. Odd, don't see too many down Towcester way ...

TheDeuce

3,938 posts

15 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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coppice said:
I haven't been to Ricard for decades , but whilst it wasn't Spa, the circuit was not as bad as some , but it does seem to have become fashionable to sneer at it . The area is gorgeous , fabulous food of course (it's Provence, so it would be) and at least it is in a country with huge racing heritage,and not some godforsaken Middle East sheikdom . .

That said, my chief memory is the sight of little groups of ..err..working girls at every crossroads near the circuit. Odd, don't see too many down Towcester way ...
It's a giant car park with a circuit painted on it, and the bits in-between painted in the colours of the French flag - because... National pride is more important than the global sport!?.. whatever. The colours and stripes are nausea inducing and the open plan layout removes any sense of speed. Or danger.

I agree about the food though. And France does have an important racing heritage and remain important in the sport today. That just makes their GP circuit offering all the less excusable though. It's crap.

Edited by TheDeuce on Friday 13th December 18:06

REALIST123

12,537 posts

102 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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coppice said:
I haven't been to Ricard for decades , but whilst it wasn't Spa, the circuit was not as bad as some , but it does seem to have become fashionable to sneer at it . The area is gorgeous , fabulous food of course (it's Provence, so it would be) and at least it is in a country with huge racing heritage,and not some godforsaken Middle East sheikdom . .

That said, my chief memory is the sight of little groups of ..err..working girls at every crossroads near the circuit. Odd, don't see too many down Towcester way ...
The food can’t make up for the other issues.

Access is awful, even with the new P and R, the circuit itself is soulless and the coloured abrasive sections........ vomit

They should just keep it as the test circuit it is.

coppice

5,664 posts

93 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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BigBen said:
I am actually of the opinion that the quality of the racing matters a lot less when you are there, it is more about the atmosphere. For instance I did Monaco one year and it was great despite the race undoubtedly being a snooze fest on TV.
You are so right . It is a sport which can only be appreciated fully by being there , seeing it, smelling it and hearing it - and preferably over the full 3 days. People tell me , from the infinite well of wisdom that comes only from watching grainy youtube footage, that the 80s turbo era of F1 was nothing special , because lots of racing was not as close as,now . And all I will say is that the 3 days I spent at Brands Hatch in 86 watching near uncontrollable turbo monsters at close range was mesmerising -and I have never seen anything better, anywhere.

But ANY GP is an event if you are there - TV is a pale shadow of reality

REALIST123

12,537 posts

102 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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coppice said:
BigBen said:
I am actually of the opinion that the quality of the racing matters a lot less when you are there, it is more about the atmosphere. For instance I did Monaco one year and it was great despite the race undoubtedly being a snooze fest on TV.
You are so right . It is a sport which can only be appreciated fully by being there , seeing it, smelling it and hearing it - and preferably over the full 3 days. People tell me , from the infinite well of wisdom that comes only from watching grainy youtube footage, that the 80s turbo era of F1 was nothing special , because lots of racing was not as close as,now . And all I will say is that the 3 days I spent at Brands Hatch in 86 watching near uncontrollable turbo monsters at close range was mesmerising -and I have never seen anything better, anywhere.

But ANY GP is an event if you are there - TV is a pale shadow of reality
Ha, that’s a reminder! I was at that ‘86 GP at Brands, with my 3 yo son. His first GP or circuit visit of any kind.

He’ll be taking me to Austin next year as a birthday treat...........how things change.

Teddy Lop

2,169 posts

16 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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coppice said:
BigBen said:
I am actually of the opinion that the quality of the racing matters a lot less when you are there, it is more about the atmosphere. For instance I did Monaco one year and it was great despite the race undoubtedly being a snooze fest on TV.
You are so right . It is a sport which can only be appreciated fully by being there , seeing it, smelling it and hearing it - and preferably over the full 3 days. People tell me , from the infinite well of wisdom that comes only from watching grainy youtube footage, that the 80s turbo era of F1 was nothing special , because lots of racing was not as close as,now . And all I will say is that the 3 days I spent at Brands Hatch in 86 watching near uncontrollable turbo monsters at close range was mesmerising -and I have never seen anything better, anywhere.

But ANY GP is an event if you are there - TV is a pale shadow of reality
this times a million.

We were at Melbourne last year, not our first GP and not a GP you'd perhaps cherry pick but travel plans and local friends made it easy, and what an occasion it was.

Yetski

400 posts

112 months

Wednesday
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TheDeuce said:
I don't think a crap race weekend at Hanoi will be quite as satisfying as one in Monaco - but having said that, I do hope one of the PH members goes and reports back, for all I know it could be excellent as a race and race venue..
I'll let you know, got tickets to view turns 2-3-4, will be interesting to see how it turns out, but Hanoi's great regardless.

Topbuzz

172 posts

129 months

Wednesday
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I’ll be watching this with interest. If it’s anything like when the U23 team play the locals will make a great weekend.
Sadly I won’t be over here for the race, missing it a month either side, but I’ll definitely catch any future races I can.

shtu

1,713 posts

95 months

Thursday
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Yetski said:
I'll let you know, got tickets to view turns 2-3-4, will be interesting to see how it turns out, but Hanoi's great regardless.
Have you managed to find a detailed seating plan anywhere?

Those are big stands on those turns, be good to see what the seat allocations are like.

TheDeuce

3,938 posts

15 months

Thursday
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Yetski

400 posts

112 months

Yesterday (04:10)
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shtu said:
Have you managed to find a detailed seating plan anywhere?

Those are big stands on those turns, be good to see what the seat allocations are like.
No I haven't, I was hoping to get one when I received my seating allocation confirmation.

I requested one this morning, and will post if I get any response.

MiniMan64

12,111 posts

139 months

Yesterday (20:34)
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