Leclerc, Vettel & Ferrari 2019
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
They're going to have to pull their finger out at some point that lot, he's being managed by Michael's old manager and she refuses to comment on Mick's new appointment. WTF?
I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
I get that they want privacy and that is their rights as a family but the secrecy is too much.I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
Michael Schumacher is known all around the World so giving some updates by the family would be better than this second-hand information which is being leaked.
Is it really a good example to others that someone who has had a life-changing accident should be hidden away and everything kept secret?
Refusing to comment on Mick's appointment is just crazy.
I mean it's not like any grown adult isn't aware of what's happened to him, we don't need him wheeled out in a vegetative state to know what's the situation. All they need to say is he's brain damaged with limited responses so we'd rather be left in peace. Fair enough.But the boy's trying to make his way into F1 in complete secrecy? Why? It's not as if everyone doesn't know who he is nor that he's entered under a cloak of anonymity?
Bizarre.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
They're going to have to pull their finger out at some point that lot, he's being managed by Michael's old manager and she refuses to comment on Mick's new appointment. WTF?
I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
Ferrari aren’t talking either. Wonder which side of the deal the issue is? Not finalized yet?I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
ajprice said:
Mick Schumacher is a Ferrari Academy driver now https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/46881708
Leclerc and Schumacher in the 2020 Ferrari, or put Schumacher in the Sauber first if Giovanazzi gets kicked or Kimi gets bored?
Or, in the real world, Schumacher gets nowhere near a potential title winning car in his first season in F1 (IF he excels in F2, not a given btw). Leclerc and Schumacher in the 2020 Ferrari, or put Schumacher in the Sauber first if Giovanazzi gets kicked or Kimi gets bored?
The only Ferrari he’ll be driving in 2020 is at a test, if he’s lucky.
He may get given a Sauber shot. I’d be a bit surprised though as up to the second half of 2018, he wasn’t exactly setting the world alight.
Lots of people getting carried away with potential fairy tales of Schumacher’s son putting on red overalls. Let the boy learn and show people what he’s got first.
M3ax said:
sparta6 said:
Neither Mick Schumacher or Ferrari are in a rush.
Only people who live on the internet seem to be in a rush.
Enjoy and savour the anticipation
Probably the first time I have agreed with you. Although there my be others but I can’t be arsed to check.Only people who live on the internet seem to be in a rush.
Enjoy and savour the anticipation
ELUSIVEJIM said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
They're going to have to pull their finger out at some point that lot, he's being managed by Michael's old manager and she refuses to comment on Mick's new appointment. WTF?
I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
I get that they want privacy and that is their rights as a family but the secrecy is too much.I just don't get the secrecy thing at all.
Michael Schumacher is known all around the World so giving some updates by the family would be better than this second-hand information which is being leaked.
Is it really a good example to others that someone who has had a life-changing accident should be hidden away and everything kept secret?
Refusing to comment on Mick's appointment is just crazy.
Because the paying public gave him and his family most of what they have perhaps?
The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Because the paying public gave him and his family most of what they have perhaps?
The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
Sorry and no offence but absolute rubbish. He competed in a highly dangerous and deadly sport for years at the very sharp end and earned his money in wages, bonuses and sponsorship deals. The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
Sa Calobra said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Because the paying public gave him and his family most of what they have perhaps?
The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
Sorry and no offence but absolute rubbish. He competed in a highly dangerous and deadly sport for years at the very sharp end and earned his money in wages, bonuses and sponsorship deals. The family seem to want that same public to respect their wishes for absolute privacy and that’s fair enough.
All I’m saying is I can understand a lot of his fans who invested huge amounts of money in supporting their hero wanting some respect back, maybe only in something as simple as an honest as and frank statement about how the guy is.
By the way I don’t class myself as any sort of Schumacher fan at all so I couldn’t give much more than two hoots. But to those from who he and his family benefited enormously and financially, well I can’t see how letting them know how their hero is is a bad thing.
No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
I mean whether through taxes, consumer purchases etc I either directly or Indirectly pay for Laurasotherhalfs wages. Does that mean I get to pry into your private life?
FFS let’s just admit the guys a vegetable at worst and not all there at best and give them the privacy they deserve
Sa Calobra said:
Sorry and no offence but absolute rubbish. He competed in a highly dangerous and deadly sport for years at the very sharp end and earned his money in wages, bonuses and sponsorship deals.
No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
It’s really very simple to correct your emotive comment;No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
https://www.michaelschumachershop.com/en/
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Sa Calobra said:
Sorry and no offence but absolute rubbish. He competed in a highly dangerous and deadly sport for years at the very sharp end and earned his money in wages, bonuses and sponsorship deals.
No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
It’s really very simple to correct your emotive comment;No one gave him money. Least of all the public. I wish him a speedy recovery but it's completely his families wishes what they do. No one else's.
In simplest terms he's not owned by the public.
https://www.michaelschumachershop.com/en/
Those people did not buy clothing and a right to know MS’s personal medical info.
Sa’s point still stands - the public did not GIVE him money, they BOUGHT merchandise from him.
If I sold you some shirts, would you expect to know my medical conditions right now in addition?
Anyway, the vast majority of his wealth was derived from sponsorship, endorsements, etc.
And his value from sponsorship comes from what? His ability to drive a car? Certainly, but you’re being naive if you think sports stars are paid on their sporting talents alone.
David Bechham’s transfer fee to Real Madrid was covered in increased merchandise sales in well under a year, let that sink in.
Everyone who shows their support to Schumacher in buying a T-shirt, keyring, sticker, baseball cap or whatever, is indirectly financing him and his family and have been since before he joined F1.
Now, I know it’s not cool to admit it around these parts as everyone likes to make out their some autistic automatron who simply only cares about one driver taking an apex 0.00015 mph faster than the next guy.
But, everyone who bought into his persona and talents, those who became a fan. All I’m saying is for millions of people around the world who cheered on and adored someone and gave him and his family unbelievable wealth.
They might deserve a little insight into how their hero is.
Because fame and fortune is a two way street and the Schumachers wouldn’t have what they have today if it wasn’t for his millions of fans spending their hard earned on him.
His fans might not have any single right to know his health and condition and his family certainly don’t have to give it if they don’t want to.
Might be a nice thing to do though knowing their are millions of people out they’re who want to know. And not out of some mawkish fascination with the macabre, just because they probably cared for the guy for twenty odd years and still do.
David Bechham’s transfer fee to Real Madrid was covered in increased merchandise sales in well under a year, let that sink in.
Everyone who shows their support to Schumacher in buying a T-shirt, keyring, sticker, baseball cap or whatever, is indirectly financing him and his family and have been since before he joined F1.
Now, I know it’s not cool to admit it around these parts as everyone likes to make out their some autistic automatron who simply only cares about one driver taking an apex 0.00015 mph faster than the next guy.
But, everyone who bought into his persona and talents, those who became a fan. All I’m saying is for millions of people around the world who cheered on and adored someone and gave him and his family unbelievable wealth.
They might deserve a little insight into how their hero is.
Because fame and fortune is a two way street and the Schumachers wouldn’t have what they have today if it wasn’t for his millions of fans spending their hard earned on him.
His fans might not have any single right to know his health and condition and his family certainly don’t have to give it if they don’t want to.
Might be a nice thing to do though knowing their are millions of people out they’re who want to know. And not out of some mawkish fascination with the macabre, just because they probably cared for the guy for twenty odd years and still do.
Any sportstar is not a charity.
The person buys the merchandise because they want to be associated with someone who is successful.
They aren't giving money to charity.
They are buying clothing and shoeing other people that they are cool.
I've always found it tragic when someone walks around in full sponsored clothing or rides pro cycling team kit.
He owns no one anything.
Just because I once bought two Damon Hill caps doesn't mean I've a right that he has to talk to me.
I'll be honest I find any such thoughts as Abit creepy.
What will you do next? Shout at an actor for being a b
d due to a character he played in East Enders?
The person buys the merchandise because they want to be associated with someone who is successful.
They aren't giving money to charity.
They are buying clothing and shoeing other people that they are cool.
I've always found it tragic when someone walks around in full sponsored clothing or rides pro cycling team kit.
He owns no one anything.
Just because I once bought two Damon Hill caps doesn't mean I've a right that he has to talk to me.
I'll be honest I find any such thoughts as Abit creepy.
What will you do next? Shout at an actor for being a b
d due to a character he played in East Enders?Mick is officially announced as Ferrari Academy https://wtf1.com/post/mick-schumacher-has-joined-t...
Quite how you correlate an eastenders actor into the discussion I’ve no idea, probably by the same train of thought that leads you to think abit is a word in the English language.
Regardless.
I’ve said my bit and I’m aware the argument has completely drifted off topic so I’ll leave it at that. Agree to disagree.
Regardless.
I’ve said my bit and I’m aware the argument has completely drifted off topic so I’ll leave it at that. Agree to disagree.
ajprice said:
Mick is officially announced as Ferrari Academy https://wtf1.com/post/mick-schumacher-has-joined-t...
He's doing alright so far at the Race of Champions this evening, partnering Vettel.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff