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Without reading the whole thread,
Where did it go wrong for them?
They had years of been at the bottom and they seemed to strike gold in the hybrid era abc having massa and bottas and they were getting great results had good sponsorship, did it all go wrong when they started switching to pay drivers and offloaded massa and bottas? Because it seemed to go downhill rather quickly! Then they list the martini sponsorship! Next thing they’re right back at the back of the grid
Where did it go wrong for them?
They had years of been at the bottom and they seemed to strike gold in the hybrid era abc having massa and bottas and they were getting great results had good sponsorship, did it all go wrong when they started switching to pay drivers and offloaded massa and bottas? Because it seemed to go downhill rather quickly! Then they list the martini sponsorship! Next thing they’re right back at the back of the grid
HustleRussell said:
TheDeuce said:
janesmith1950 said:
Replace "almost 2 seasons" with "1 season" and you get the intended meaning.
How do you read it that way? Why would she say 2 seasons, and specify which two she was talking about if she intended to refer to just one?TheDeuce said:
davidd said:
Telegraph today https://apple.news/At2lKWaRTQZuAYKNKskRhgw
Oh great. She's leading a war against male dominance in the sport by being the only woman with a top job, and also, the worst performing. Inspirational...I would have thought she had other things to be focused on.
She's not even the best female team principle, acting or otherwise, we've seen in f1.
Teddy Lop said:
TheDeuce said:
davidd said:
Telegraph today https://apple.news/At2lKWaRTQZuAYKNKskRhgw
Oh great. She's leading a war against male dominance in the sport by being the only woman with a top job, and also, the worst performing. Inspirational...I would have thought she had other things to be focused on.
She's not even the best female team principle, acting or otherwise, we've seen in f1.
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Look at you, you sexist white hetero male chauvinists. It's all your fault and we need more women like her to enter the sport, based on the fact that we need equalitey. Parity is more important than quality, that's the social justice we're striving for comrades!
Splitter !!!!!!2fast748 said:
HustleRussell said:
TheDeuce said:
janesmith1950 said:
Replace "almost 2 seasons" with "1 season" and you get the intended meaning.
How do you read it that way? Why would she say 2 seasons, and specify which two she was talking about if she intended to refer to just one?She may as well have said 'we're surviving for 2 years - then, we will see...'
ghost83 said:
Without reading the whole thread,
Where did it go wrong for them?
They had years of been at the bottom and they seemed to strike gold in the hybrid era abc having massa and bottas and they were getting great results had good sponsorship, did it all go wrong when they started switching to pay drivers and offloaded massa and bottas? Because it seemed to go downhill rather quickly! Then they list the martini sponsorship! Next thing they’re right back at the back of the grid
At the beginning of the 'Hybrid Era' they were gifted with the best engine on the grid and had a simple, slippery car, which got results on tracks that rewarded that. I'm not sure Massa or Bottas did any more than any other driver would have done.Where did it go wrong for them?
They had years of been at the bottom and they seemed to strike gold in the hybrid era abc having massa and bottas and they were getting great results had good sponsorship, did it all go wrong when they started switching to pay drivers and offloaded massa and bottas? Because it seemed to go downhill rather quickly! Then they list the martini sponsorship! Next thing they’re right back at the back of the grid
Then they simply appeared to stand still or regress. They've slowly dropped down the pecking order and scored fewer and fewer points. They still have the best engine on the grid but not much else.
2014 3rd 320 points
2015 3rd 257 points
2016 5th 138 points
2017 5th 83 points
2018 10th 7 points
ivanhoew said:
slight left turn , but , is it just me that's finds it impossible to believe that if you dynoed mercs car and williams car , the engines would be anything remotely similar in power output ?
Engines supplied to customer teams have to be the same spec as the factory teams. Customer teams have to have access to the same engine maps etc.A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
HighwayStar said:
Engines supplied to customer teams have to be the same spec as the factory teams. Customer teams have to have access to the same engine maps etc.
A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
Reminds me of McLaren blaming Honda for a slow car only to find the engine did have enough power but it was their car (although I appreciate Williams are not blaming Merc)A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
Frimley111R said:
HighwayStar said:
Engines supplied to customer teams have to be the same spec as the factory teams. Customer teams have to have access to the same engine maps etc.
A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
Reminds me of McLaren blaming Honda for a slow car only to find the engine did have enough power but it was their car (although I appreciate Williams are not blaming Merc)A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
HighwayStar said:
ivanhoew said:
slight left turn , but , is it just me that's finds it impossible to believe that if you dynoed mercs car and williams car , the engines would be anything remotely similar in power output ?
Engines supplied to customer teams have to be the same spec as the factory teams. Customer teams have to have access to the same engine maps etc.A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
rscott said:
HighwayStar said:
ivanhoew said:
slight left turn , but , is it just me that's finds it impossible to believe that if you dynoed mercs car and williams car , the engines would be anything remotely similar in power output ?
Engines supplied to customer teams have to be the same spec as the factory teams. Customer teams have to have access to the same engine maps etc.A rule change came a few seasons back. Sadly, Williams are in that much trouble.
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Yep, the investment has started..
Noticed the new pit equipment, remind you of anybody else’s?
I hadn't noticed - Mercedes per chance? Although they have of course confirmed that Racing point are in no way a B team...Noticed the new pit equipment, remind you of anybody else’s?
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