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Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Meanwhile in Montreal...

Situation normal. Mobile roadblocks.

skwdenyer

16,621 posts

241 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
Meanwhile in Montreal...

Situation normal. Mobile roadblocks.
Latifi behind Russell in FP1 by much the same amount as Kubica was in FP2 in the same car. Tells us little except that he didn’t shade Kubica.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Which is not what Sky were intimating. They said (Herbert I think) that despite his heroism coming back to F1, Latifi was quicker that Kubica. Which he would be, bot carrying an injury.


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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skwdenyer said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Meanwhile in Montreal...

Situation normal. Mobile roadblocks.
Latifi behind Russell in FP1 by much the same amount as Kubica was in FP2 in the same car. Tells us little except that he didn’t shade Kubica.


They’re busy making another Netflix episode; no time to fuss about making the cars quicker.......

Petrus1983

8,816 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Top 17 drivers separated by 1.4secs - RK 3.1 and GR isn’t massively quicker yikes

In racing terms they’re so far off the pace I don’t know how they could ever recover the car for this season.

TheDeuce

21,908 posts

67 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
Top 17 drivers separated by 1.4secs - RK 3.1 and GR isn’t massively quicker yikes

In racing terms they’re so far off the pace I don’t know how they could ever recover the car for this season.
Quite right. In quali 4-6 seconds behind so far. If they managed the biggest and most effective update of the entire grid this season they would maybe average 2-4 seconds off the pace.

For such cars to become competitive is unthinkable.

Edited by TheDeuce on Saturday 8th June 07:02

Petrus1983

8,816 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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They must know this though - everyone in the factory must know it too - in general I imagine you end up working at an F1 team because you genuinely love the sport. Unless everyone there knows full well they’re working on 2020’s car it must be pretty soul destroying to ‘pretend’ you’re trying to sort 2019’s challenger.

Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Good news,

Williams closing the gap on race pace..



With a bit of luck might nick a point..

TheDeuce

21,908 posts

67 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Deesee said:
Good news,

Williams closing the gap on race pace..



With a bit of luck might nick a point..
Luck is the only way they will get a single point this season.


Fortitude

492 posts

193 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
They must know this though - everyone in the factory must know it too - in general I imagine you end up working at an F1 team because you genuinely love the sport. Unless everyone there knows full well they’re working on 2020’s car it must be pretty soul destroying to ‘pretend’ you’re trying to sort 2019’s challenger.
Soul destroying indeed... Reminds me of Damon Hill, after he won the F1 World Championship in a Williams and the next race, was doing his utmost best to qualify...

Damon Hill (Arrows A18) qualifying runs - 1997 Australian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlfcHdJyUs

Petrus1983

8,816 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Free practice 3 and RK .5 from GR. There has to be a point where he feels he’s proved a point but acknowledges it time to let the seat go (ignoring whether it’s paid for or not). Let see how qualifying goes.

Petrus1983

8,816 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Williams.



slipstream 1985

12,285 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Williams have finished every race so far
The motto for racing is to finish first first you must finish
Maybe Williams motto is to finish 10th first you must finish.......

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

139 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Fortitude said:
Petrus1983 said:
They must know this though - everyone in the factory must know it too - in general I imagine you end up working at an F1 team because you genuinely love the sport. Unless everyone there knows full well they’re working on 2020’s car it must be pretty soul destroying to ‘pretend’ you’re trying to sort 2019’s challenger.
Soul destroying indeed... Reminds me of Damon Hill, after he won the F1 World Championship in a Williams and the next race, was doing his utmost best to qualify...

Damon Hill (Arrows A18) qualifying runs - 1997 Australian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlfcHdJyUs
And to think that car was a failed washer away from winning a race later that season.....

slipstream 1985

12,285 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Fortitude said:
Petrus1983 said:
They must know this though - everyone in the factory must know it too - in general I imagine you end up working at an F1 team because you genuinely love the sport. Unless everyone there knows full well they’re working on 2020’s car it must be pretty soul destroying to ‘pretend’ you’re trying to sort 2019’s challenger.
Soul destroying indeed... Reminds me of Damon Hill, after he won the F1 World Championship in a Williams and the next race, was doing his utmost best to qualify...

Damon Hill (Arrows A18) qualifying runs - 1997 Australian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlfcHdJyUs
George Russels problem for when/if he gets a quicker car is his fellow newbies Albon and Norris have learned how to race in a pack how to overtake and how other drivers react to them.

skwdenyer

16,621 posts

241 months

Sunday 9th June 2019
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Fortitude said:
Soul destroying indeed... Reminds me of Damon Hill, after he won the F1 World Championship in a Williams and the next race, was doing his utmost best to qualify...

Damon Hill (Arrows A18) qualifying runs - 1997 Australian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlfcHdJyUs
Different times; at that race, only 3 cars qualified writhing 3 seconds of Villeneuve on pole!

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

139 months

Sunday 9th June 2019
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I see another stellar performance by Kubica again lol

Petrus1983

8,816 posts

163 months

Sunday 9th June 2019
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Car-Matt said:
I see another stellar performance by Kubica again lol
Has he finished yet?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Sunday 9th June 2019
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skwdenyer said:
Different times; at that race, only 3 cars qualified writhing 3 seconds of Villeneuve on pole!
I do wonder what you get up to when your auto correct swaps within to writhing.

rofl

slipstream 1985

12,285 posts

180 months

Sunday 9th June 2019
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They are finishing every race but this season everyone else is finishing and not really crashing. Last season on average there were 4-6 cars per race that dnf so far the whole field are much better,