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coppice

5,038 posts

83 months

Tuesday 12th March
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You can see which way F1 is headed - I enjoyed the series a lot but what was it actually about ? People , spats , willy waving and power games . I fell in love with motor sport decades ago (including but not limited to F1 ) and the reason I did was because of the cars - which are peripheral at best here , and usually just the prop for another sound enhanced shunt. This veers a little too close to TV Quick magazine for people who think racing begins and ends with Formula 1 - and if I hear Buxton and his mate wittering sagely about the bleeding obvious ...

Patch1875

3,342 posts

71 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Really enjoyable series most of the stuff we knew but the some of the conversations between the bosses was excellent.

Feel sorry for Ocon hopefully he gets a seat back next year Perez’s money buys him a seat.

Driving Silverstone on the simulator with his eyes shut was impressive.

Jerry Can

2,116 posts

162 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Patch1875 said:
Really enjoyable series most of the stuff we knew but the some of the conversations between the bosses was excellent.

Feel sorry for Ocon hopefully he gets a seat back next year Perez’s money buys him a seat.

Driving Silverstone on the simulator with his eyes shut was impressive.
he wasn't on a simulator. He was on a weight training machine designed to replicate steering wheel forces. His eyes were shut because he was imagining the track.

patmahe

5,232 posts

143 months

Tuesday 12th March
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I don't like saying it because I like Claire Williams, but I don't think she's the person for the job of turning the team around judging by this documentary and the team's testing issues.

This thing of Williams will never be a 'B' team is killing them, right now the are a 'D' team with no real prospect of improving any time soon.

I think I'd be looking to form a partnership and stabilise for a 3-5 year period. Make the team a place where people want to work again and go from there. It's about survival for now for Williams, the glory days of 20 years ago are gone.

Patch1875

3,342 posts

71 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Jerry Can said:
he wasn't on a simulator. He was on a weight training machine designed to replicate steering wheel forces. His eyes were shut because he was imagining the track.
Oh well I’m disappointed now maybe he doesn’t deserve another chance nowlaugh

Looking forward to the weekend.
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Wills2

15,383 posts

114 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Watched it all at the weekend some great insights and scenes played out and I liked that it focused on the rest of the grid and not Mercedes and Ferrari

A few take outs

Claire Williams - Shouldn't be running Williams if they are going to improve, she looked broken by it all and Lawrence Stroll just looks sinister.
Cyril - Under pressure, it really came through on the camera pieces, I like him and hope they stick something on RB this season.
Horner - Witty and stty in equal measure to everyone it seems baring darling Max.
Gunther - Nutter, his reactions to Grosjean's antics on track were superb especially when he binned it in Baku. hehe
Zac Brown - Wall paper paste.

And Ocon should have a drive in 2019!




Gary29

2,024 posts

38 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Vaud said:
I did laugh that Horner's dogs are called Bernie and Flav.
don't forget Geri!

thepawbroon

663 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Vaud said:
I did laugh that Horner's dogs are called Bernie and Flav.
I've watched the first two episodes, very good. But the pre-Monaco scene with the dogs/donkeys seemed very obviously staged. As did the scene with Ricciardo and his agent talking about Merc & Ferarri. The rest was great tho.

Supersam83

194 posts

84 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Just love the tension and dynamic between Cyril Abiteboul and Christian Horner during the engine and Danny Ric situations.

"You need a new engine and driver now" line was a great low blow after all the crap Cyril and Renault had to put up with Red Bull & Horner. biggrin

Can't wait for Renault and Danny Ric to beat Red Bull and Max V.

Gunther Steiner has gone up in my estimation as well.

"We would have looked like rock stars but now we look like wkers"

laugh

Vaud

31,244 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Supersam83 said:
Gunther Steiner has gone up in my estimation as well.

"We would have looked like rock stars but now we look like wkers"

laugh
Personally I think it is terrible leadership. I much prefer the quiet, intelligent engineering types like Ross B.

HustleRussell

15,939 posts

99 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Deesee said:
Zak, walking around in his own bubble.
Zak in his Woking office said:
How much is that, I want all these figures in Dollars...
Not very McLaren, Zak rolleyes

I'm surprised by how poorly fitting Lawrence's trousers are, I thought he was invested in fashion lines etc? I remember a bit where he stood up and I thought "Christ, his trousers are high" and just as I was thinking that he hiked them up another inch or two hehe

Deesee

1,593 posts

22 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Up to Ep 8...Well they have certainly painted a few pictures...

Heros..

Ocon, Gasly, CLC, Dan Ric

Villains..

Max, McLaren, CH, the strolls

Blind leading the hopeless..

Claire Williams, Zak

Demi Gods..

Gunther & Cyril

Wrestling style heel (bad guy)..

Kmag


pauloroberto

158 posts

90 months

Tuesday 12th March
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TheDeuce said:
But it would be fantastic if they could find a way to shorten the gap between when they film and when we see the show.
I agree. But I imagine that the teams were willing to agree to this because they knew that their comments would be broadcast so long after the event that they would not be tactically/commercially sensitive.

Some of it was a bit superficial for us F1 fans but if you weren't an F1 fan, why would you watch it?

Oz83

365 posts

78 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Vaud said:
Supersam83 said:
Gunther Steiner has gone up in my estimation as well.

"We would have looked like rock stars but now we look like wkers"

laugh
Personally I think it is terrible leadership. I much prefer the quiet, intelligent engineering types like Ross B.
I agree. Watching Guenther ridicule and curse a driver who is clearly having confidence issues didn't impress me one bit. I didn't want him to give Grosjean a cuddle, but taking the piss out of him to the whole team in his absence was a low point.

As others have said, I'm not sure Claire Williams is in the right place. Clearly Stroll is holding the cards, and her quip about a first corner pile up at Monaco was a bit off. I also watched that episode with my wife and she commented 'how does she have time to run an F1 team with a 1 year old at home'. I know it's 2019 and all that, but it's a fair observation when you look at the stress and commitment required for that job.


TheDeuce

618 posts

5 months

Tuesday 12th March
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pauloroberto said:
Some of it was a bit superficial for us F1 fans but if you weren't an F1 fan, why would you watch it?
Well why did many of us first watch? Because every knows it's a supersport involving billions, fastest cars on the planet, glamour... I suppose after a while people just catch race being shown on the telly or at the pub and try and get their head around it.

The problem is though, it's damn difficult from watching a couple of races to get your head around very much. It's a somewhat complex and convoluted sport!

The show on the other hand has the ability to tell the stories and show the drama, and if people enjoy that side then they'll maybe make the effort to get their heads around the rules and scoring etc.

In a nutshell, it's another way in to the sport. It's also pretty decent reality TV in its own right. Better than love jungle and celebrity island wink

Stan the Bat

4,590 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Just watched the first 3 episodes.

Seems a bit Red Bull orientated so far but great to watch.

TheDeuce

618 posts

5 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Stan the Bat said:
Just watched the first 3 episodes.

Seems a bit Red Bull orientated so far but great to watch.
You won't say that as you watch the rest wink

But get ready for some big RB stuff in ep 4, then they're pretty much out of it.

Stan the Bat

4,590 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th March
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TheDeuce said:
Stan the Bat said:
Just watched the first 3 episodes.

Seems a bit Red Bull orientated so far but great to watch.
You won't say that as you watch the rest wink

But get ready for some big RB stuff in ep 4, then they're pretty much out of it.
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DanielSan

13,792 posts

106 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Oz83 said:
I agree. Watching Guenther ridicule and curse a driver who is clearly having confidence issues didn't impress me one bit. I didn't want him to give Grosjean a cuddle, but taking the piss out of him to the whole team in his absence was a low point.

As others have said, I'm not sure Claire Williams is in the right place. Clearly Stroll is holding the cards, and her quip about a first corner pile up at Monaco was a bit off. I also watched that episode with my wife and she commented 'how does she have time to run an F1 team with a 1 year old at home'. I know it's 2019 and all that, but it's a fair observation when you look at the stress and commitment required for that job.

Stroll isn't holding any cards at Williams now and they look even worse..

exelero

664 posts

28 months

Tuesday 12th March
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I liked the whole series, but I missed the Merc-Ferrari battle from it. Hopefully they will include it next year biggrin Although they wold have to include some explanations regarding why doesn't Hamilton get penalised ever biggrin