Are Haas embarrassed about Rich Energy?

Are Haas embarrassed about Rich Energy?

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TheDeuce

21,709 posts

67 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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I don't get this. They have to have a hearing for the court to consider if their appeal is grounded in anything of substance - and during that hearing they're tweeting using the logo they are not allowed to use anymore..?

Absolute jokers. I do wonder if they're genuinely idiots - or clever enough to figure out that all publicity is good publicity, and are happy to both create and now drag out this charade for as long as possible. They're absolutely desperate to provoke RB in to some sort of social media feud, so perhaps it is all just a massive comedy show simply to gain brand recognition.

C Lee Farquar

4,069 posts

217 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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TheDeuce said:
I don't get this. They have to have a hearing for the court to consider if their appeal is grounded in anything of substance - and during that hearing they're tweeting using the logo they are not allowed to use anymore..?
I read, I believe on here, that Whyte would still need an injunction after the previous hearing to stop RE using the logo.

I would have thought from Whyte's point of views the longer it goes on the better, it's great positive publicity for them.



TheDeuce

21,709 posts

67 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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C Lee Farquar said:
I read, I believe on here, that Whyte would still need an injunction after the previous hearing to stop RE using the logo.

I would have thought from Whyte's point of views the longer it goes on the better, it's great positive publicity for them.
That's true. Whatever RE think they're doing to promote their brand, they're doing far more to promote Whyte smile

Steamer

13,863 posts

214 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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TheDeuce said:
C Lee Farquar said:
I read, I believe on here, that Whyte would still need an injunction after the previous hearing to stop RE using the logo.

I would have thought from Whyte's point of views the longer it goes on the better, it's great positive publicity for them.
That's true. Whatever RE think they're doing to promote their brand, they're doing far more to promote Whyte smile
They really should bang out a limted edition Black & Gold bike like the Orange 5...

..although that is lowering themselves to RE's level (which seems preeeeeety low!)

Some Gump

12,704 posts

187 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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I'd like to see them OE some High5 as a "Whyte Energy" product with their logo in gold on black packaging. Then tweet a picture of it actually for sale, in a shop to Rich Energy.

silentbrown

8,852 posts

117 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Well, that went well for them... wink

https://formulaspy.com/formula-1/rich-energy-lose-...

FormulaSpy said:
A further hearing of the Intellectual Property Enterprise Court was heard in the Rolls Building in London on Thursday morning, where Rich Energy’s request to be allowed to take their case to the Court of Appeal was refused.

Further orders were made against Rich Energy, which are:

  • An court injunction has been granted, preventing Rich Energy from infringing Whyte Bikes’ copyright in their stag logo. The effect of this is that Rich Energy will not be able to use the stag logo on energy drinks or on any other products; this will take effect on the 18th of July.
  • Rich Energy requested a three month stay of this injunction. The court refused this, granting them a three week stay only.
  • Rich Energy have been ordered to deliver all infringing products to Whyte Bikes or, if they’d prefer, can destroy the items or render them non-infringing. This must be completed by the 1st of August.
  • A court declaration has been made that Rich Energy’s stag head logo UK trademark is invalid. This takes effect on the 18th of July.
  • Rich Energy has been ordered to disclose to ATB Sales (Whyte Bikes) the total UK and global sales to date of cans of Rich Energy featuring the offending logo, as well as the total sums received from these sales.
  • Rich Energy have been ordered to pay costs of £35,416 to Whyte Bikes within 14 days of the court date.
  • If Rich Energy and Whyte Bikes can’t agree on damages for copyright infringement, the court will assess it at a later hearing.
  • Rich Energy can go to the Court of Appeal for permission to appeal these orders, with any such application or application for a continuation of their three week stay being submitted before the 18th of July. Formal sign-off of these orders by Judge Melissa Clarke is scheduled for this coming Monday.
I wonder what Whyte will do with 90million cans? Melt them down and turn them into frames?

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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With a severe summing up like that it sounds like the Judge had tried it.

TheDeuce

21,709 posts

67 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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silentbrown said:
Well, that went well for them... wink

https://formulaspy.com/formula-1/rich-energy-lose-...

FormulaSpy said:
A further hearing of the Intellectual Property Enterprise Court was heard in the Rolls Building in London on Thursday morning, where Rich Energy’s request to be allowed to take their case to the Court of Appeal was refused.

Further orders were made against Rich Energy, which are:

  • An court injunction has been granted, preventing Rich Energy from infringing Whyte Bikes’ copyright in their stag logo. The effect of this is that Rich Energy will not be able to use the stag logo on energy drinks or on any other products; this will take effect on the 18th of July.
  • Rich Energy requested a three month stay of this injunction. The court refused this, granting them a three week stay only.
  • Rich Energy have been ordered to deliver all infringing products to Whyte Bikes or, if they’d prefer, can destroy the items or render them non-infringing. This must be completed by the 1st of August.
  • A court declaration has been made that Rich Energy’s stag head logo UK trademark is invalid. This takes effect on the 18th of July.
  • Rich Energy has been ordered to disclose to ATB Sales (Whyte Bikes) the total UK and global sales to date of cans of Rich Energy featuring the offending logo, as well as the total sums received from these sales.
  • Rich Energy have been ordered to pay costs of £35,416 to Whyte Bikes within 14 days of the court date.
  • If Rich Energy and Whyte Bikes can’t agree on damages for copyright infringement, the court will assess it at a later hearing.
  • Rich Energy can go to the Court of Appeal for permission to appeal these orders, with any such application or application for a continuation of their three week stay being submitted before the 18th of July. Formal sign-off of these orders by Judge Melissa Clarke is scheduled for this coming Monday.
I wonder what Whyte will do with 90million cans? Melt them down and turn them into frames?
Finally - an end to this bks is in sight biggrin

Let's see them spin this reality check in a humorous tweet smile

JonChalk

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6,469 posts

111 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Well, if Haas aren't embarrassed by them now, when....?

Don't see how Haas can come out of this untarnished in some fashion now.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Possibly the only ray of sunlight for Williams is that they didn't land Rich Energy as a sponsor.

TheDeuce

21,709 posts

67 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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JonChalk said:
Well, if Haas aren't embarrassed by them now, when....?

Don't see how Haas can come out of this untarnished in some fashion now.
They are tarnished... and who suffers when a team is tarnished..? Their sponsor. The only people to lose out really are RE.

As a team, they're doing perfectly well and I doubt will have any issues finding a new sponsor. I don't think it will be RE.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Europa1 said:
Possibly the only ray of sunlight for Williams is that they didn't land Rich Energy as a sponsor.
Have you ever seen a Rokit phone?

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
Have you ever seen a Rokit phone?
Plenty of sites have had them for reviews but given how poor the reviews are I doubt anyone would buy one.

TheDeuce

21,709 posts

67 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
Europa1 said:
Possibly the only ray of sunlight for Williams is that they didn't land Rich Energy as a sponsor.
Have you ever seen a Rokit phone?
Leave alone the irony. Rokit... Apparently the phones do exist but are surprisingly slow for a 2019 smartphone. Enough said.


thegreenhell

15,403 posts

220 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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So, there is now a court order preventing their use of the stag logo in the UK after July 18th, and they must provide full disclosure of their financial arrangements including those with Haas F1. This could get interesting...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rich-energy-cou...

slipstream 1985

12,230 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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Based on Haas results should the thread title be changed to

"are Rich Energy embarrassed about Hass?

Mark-C

5,138 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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slipstream 1985 said:
Based on Haas results should the thread title be changed to

"are Rich Energy embarrassed about Hass?
It's hard to imagine Rich Energy being embarrassed about anything ...

geeks

9,204 posts

140 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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This will hopefully make an interesting feature in the Netflix documentary for this season!

Dynamic Space Wizard

931 posts

105 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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silentbrown said:
Well, that went well for them... wink

https://formulaspy.com/formula-1/rich-energy-lose-...

FormulaSpy said:
Further orders were made against Rich Energy, which are:

* An court injunction has been granted
rofl

StevieBee

12,927 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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TheDeuce said:
Rokit... Apparently the phones do exist but are surprisingly slow for a 2019 smartphone. Enough said.
I think Rokit are a slightly different case in that they are all about future 5G and creating awareness for the brand for the future rather than flog something now, even though they do have product available. I would imagine they are banking on being acquired by one of the bigger companies at some point.
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