The Official 2019 Australian Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2019 Australian Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

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Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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sandman77 said:
Is there a list showing each drivers fastest laps? I would like to see a comparison between the Williams drivers (as I’m not sure Kubica should be back in F1).
A few pages back we discussed in 0.5 was the difference, go back a few pages.

TheDeuce

21,830 posts

67 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Deesee said:
A few pages back we discussed in 0.5 was the difference, go back a few pages.
Yes, once adjusted for the time lost, 0.5 seconds was the best guesstimate. Still a significant amount, although he may have had damage.

As I said on the day though, it's hard to believe there was a reason for the lack of pace as Williams haven't said anything about it. If there is a reason (damage), they should out of support for Kubica.

Next weekend, if he's off the pace again it would be time to worry, but for right now, it really was just one race and there was an incident, so no way of knowing if his car was mildly damaged.

Evangelion

7,744 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Discussion on the crap new rule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHX0q_vIXY

RichB

51,659 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Evangelion said:
Discussion on the crap new rule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHX0q_vIXY
I don't have a problem with the idea and as it's only one race into the season it's too early to be judgmental.

Swampy1982

3,308 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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ChocolateFrog said:
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
is it not just a case that their engine power allows them to run higher downforce packages as they have the confidence already on the straights?

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Swampy1982 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
is it not just a case that their engine power allows them to run higher downforce packages as they have the confidence already on the straights?
Remember they are maximums, pick a lap and I’ll post the speeds from that lap.

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Deesee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

[url]
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners
So given the turbulent air and Merc superior mapping, Max is driving faster than Lewis ?

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

[url]
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners
So given the turbulent air and Merc superior mapping, Max is driving faster than Lewis ?
Lap times no.

Quali lap times no

Quali max speeds no.

Turbulent air is now effecting at 1.2 1.5 seconds, max was not in that range for long, and if he would get close Merc would enhance the engine strat mode.

Merc are so quick in the curves.

As above name a lap and I’ll post the speeds/times.

TheDeuce

21,830 posts

67 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Swampy1982 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
is it not just a case that their engine power allows them to run higher downforce packages as they have the confidence already on the straights?
Yea, in the real worth there is nothing to suggest that in a race, the RB's are anything like as quick as Mercedes. All we know for sure is that in Melbourne, they were half a second per lap slower, and that AN had said he wants more down force as their outright speed is already more than enough. So we can probably expect their trap times to reduce as they develop, and track times to stay roughly the same on most circuits, but potentially very quick on circuits that suit a high down force car - I can certainly see a high chance of a Verstappen win at Monaco this year...


sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

[url]
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners
So given the turbulent air and Merc superior mapping, Max is driving faster than Lewis ?
Lap times no.

Quali lap times no

Quali max speeds no.

Turbulent air is now effecting at 1.2 1.5 seconds, max was not in that range for long, and if he would get close Merc would enhance the engine strat mode.

Merc are so quick in the curves.

As above name a lap and I’ll post the speeds/times.
OK.

MV mentioned post-race he thought he had a tiny bit more speed than LH, but couldn't visualise a way past at this circuit.
Clearly RB need sort out its maps if they're to get a sniff of mixing it up at the sharp end.





Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

[url]
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners
So given the turbulent air and Merc superior mapping, Max is driving faster than Lewis ?
Lap times no.

Quali lap times no

Quali max speeds no.

Turbulent air is now effecting at 1.2 1.5 seconds, max was not in that range for long, and if he would get close Merc would enhance the engine strat mode.

Merc are so quick in the curves.

As above name a lap and I’ll post the speeds/times.
OK.

MV mentioned post-race he thought he had a tiny bit more speed than LH, but couldn't visualise a way past at this circuit.
Clearly RB need sort out its maps if they're to get a sniff of mixing it up at the sharp end.
RB need to sort the downforce out and then get the power/downforce balance right.

Lewis had floor damage, but could still pull away and keep Max out of DRS.

Max might think he had more speed but the reality is Merc would respond to the challenge and up the pace.

TheDeuce

21,830 posts

67 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)

|https://thumbsnap.com/kENX3sio[/url]

Overall Fia inc speed trap

[url]
Interesting to see Hamilton consistently around 15kph slower than the RB.

Maybe there is some truth about the Honda power unit being close in terms of power.
The Honda Unit is strong, Merc are the masters of the Map, using the battery out of the corners
So given the turbulent air and Merc superior mapping, Max is driving faster than Lewis ?
Lap times no.

Quali lap times no

Quali max speeds no.

Turbulent air is now effecting at 1.2 1.5 seconds, max was not in that range for long, and if he would get close Merc would enhance the engine strat mode.

Merc are so quick in the curves.

As above name a lap and I’ll post the speeds/times.
OK.

MV mentioned post-race he thought he had a tiny bit more speed than LH, but couldn't visualise a way past at this circuit.
Clearly RB need sort out its maps if they're to get a sniff of mixing it up at the sharp end.
RB need to sort the downforce out and then get the power/downforce balance right.

Lewis had floor damage, but could still pull away and keep Max out of DRS.

Max might think he had more speed but the reality is Merc would respond to the challenge and up the pace.
Very true. I am extremely impressed and glad at Red Bull's effort with this seasons car. But, at this stage at least Mercedes advantage is clear and considerable overall.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Saw a stat that there were 3 overtakes last year. 14 this year with the rule changes.

Let's see if that trend continues.

dunc_sx

1,609 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)
Thanks smile

HustleRussell

24,748 posts

161 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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sandman77 said:
Is there a list showing each drivers fastest laps? I would like to see a comparison between the Williams drivers (as I’m not sure Kubica should be back in F1).
Hamilton’s fastest lap was half a second slower than Bottas’. Vettel’s was a second slower than Leclerc’s. What does that tell us about the relative pace of those drivers?

Practically nothing.

Leithen

10,951 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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The consistently poor speeds from Ferrari confirm that they must have been searching for grip and consequently adding wing.

They must hope that it's a mechanical setup snafu rather than anything fundamentally aero.

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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dunc_sx said:
Deesee said:
F1.com live Timing (by sector)
Thanks smile
No worries hope it helped thumbup

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Leithen said:
The consistently poor speeds from Ferrari confirm that they must have been searching for grip and consequently adding wing.

They must hope that it's a mechanical setup snafu rather than anything fundamentally aero.
If you look at track, low grip, mid / low speed corners it’s not what you would say is a typical track for the rest of the year, and tyre degradation was a huge problem for them.

Ferrari may have pigeon holed themselves into an aero concept that may not work, and with that a concept that does not help the cooling of the PU.

Bahrain will be a litmus test for a few teams, with 3x DRS zones with some challenging aero sectors and slightly warmer weather & Pirelli have firmed up the rubber.


Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Merc / Hamilton de brief

Edit

Full debrief

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/110842079...

Edited by Deesee on Wednesday 20th March 20:03