The Official F1 2020 silly season *contains speculation*
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Ahonen said:
shirt said:
Ahonen said:
I'm sure you know best, so well done on putting me straight.
Well done swinging your ‘I used to work in F1 you know’ balls about for effect but, regardless, please point out where I disregarded your input. 
Ha, you're like a Modern Toss cartoon.I wasn't swinging anything, as you know, because I don't really post here much at all. I was bringing a little personal and professional perspective and insight to try to answer your original point in a constructive manner. I hoped that mentioning I'd worked with him would give the post some credibility but you still referred to him as a mid grid journeyman or whatever it was, so there's no point in us chatting any more.
By the way if you go to visit the Doctor and he gives you his diagnosis do you reply with: "Yeah well done swinging your 'I spent five years at medical school and have a PhD' balls about for effect"?
I enjoyed the insight tbh, don't doubt or argue against it, and still not sure i did. I certainly didn't reference your post directly. But saying:
'Someone will still tell me I'm wrong though, I'm sure.'
and then:
'I'm sure you know best, so well done on putting me straight'
Just seemed as though you were looking for a connection that wasn't there, simply for effect.
Similarly new to this sub-forum, no offence meant.
My inference was that even if he does possess a stellar engineering input he rarely shows results / pace to back that up. This input may well be enough to secure a race seat in the midfield, and I could see the value placing him at one of the Ferrari B teams, but at Ferrari itself that would translate to a test/simulator driver at best.
Do we honestly believe that 9 seasons without any kind of sustained form should result in a front line drive?
shirt said:
Do we honestly believe that 9 seasons without any kind of sustained form should result in a front line drive?
That pretty much sums it up. That sort of thing just doesn't happen.To be fair, if they just wanted a fairly solid number 2 driver 'Bottas style' then it could probably work. On the other hand top teams want new drivers to have a some hype and excitement behind them, and these days, also be relatively young ideally. They have to think about how much news and subsequent sponsorship the signing could generate. Drafting in a guy who's been around for a decade and hasn't achieved anything spectacular for most of that period isn't going to be that exciting.
TheDeuce said:
shirt said:
Do we honestly believe that 9 seasons without any kind of sustained form should result in a front line drive?
That pretty much sums it up. That sort of thing just doesn't happen.To be fair, if they just wanted a fairly solid number 2 driver 'Bottas style' then it could probably work. On the other hand top teams want new drivers to have a some hype and excitement behind them, and these days, also be relatively young ideally. They have to think about how much news and subsequent sponsorship the signing could generate. Drafting in a guy who's been around for a decade and hasn't achieved anything spectacular for most of that period isn't going to be that exciting.
As usual Renault found a perfect scapegoat for their crummy efforts .Would like to still see the hulk on the grid.
I think the main regret may be not being in f1 for the reset year in 2021 but a new entrant team would jump on him.
I think the Ocon thing is so they can hit the ejector seat on Riciardo after his expensive contract ends.
I think the main regret may be not being in f1 for the reset year in 2021 but a new entrant team would jump on him.
I think the Ocon thing is so they can hit the ejector seat on Riciardo after his expensive contract ends.
housen said:
Really no surprise. Sad chapter in a way, but I think overall his recovery effort to get back to F1 at all is achievement enough, and that was definitely a job well done.
vaud said:
I doubt it. DTM, which may suit him better longer term.
Orlen is negotiating with both teams a development driver role as they want to stay in F1. Racing Point's marketing director has visited Orlen this week. And actually Kubica was close to replacing Grosjean but the talks collapsed around a month ago.And 3rd driver role will allow him to race in other series.
Edited by Lebo44 on Thursday 19th September 14:37
JonChalk said:
Who's in line for the Williams drive, then?
Ocon? Latifi (thought he's firmly tied to McLaren though)? DeVries (same as Latifi, but no room for both at Mc)? Aitken (Renault)?Ilott (thought he was Ferrari Academy)? Ghiotto?
I think you can exclude Ocon (Renault) and DeVries (joined Merc in Formula E).Ocon? Latifi (thought he's firmly tied to McLaren though)? DeVries (same as Latifi, but no room for both at Mc)? Aitken (Renault)?Ilott (thought he was Ferrari Academy)? Ghiotto?
Latifi seems to be perfect fit for Williams.
Lebo44 said:
I think you can exclude Ocon (Renault) and DeVries (joined Merc in Formula E).
Latifi seems to be perfect fit for Williams.
I thought Latifi's father was a huge McLaren contributor?Latifi seems to be perfect fit for Williams.
I can see the attraction, but there are better candidates in F2 right now IMHO.
Alternatively, I'd quite like to see what Kimi would do against GR.
JonChalk said:
I thought Latifi's father was a huge McLaren contributor?
I can see the attraction, but there are better candidates in F2 right now IMHO.
Alternatively, I'd quite like to see what Kimi would do against GR.
Yes there are better candidates in F2 in terms of speed but in terms of possible financial backing Latifi has no competition I can see the attraction, but there are better candidates in F2 right now IMHO.
Alternatively, I'd quite like to see what Kimi would do against GR.
He's a test driver for Williams right now which is a big factor I believe. And it was confirmed by Claire two weeks ago that he's on the shortlist. Also Williams' results are not helping in attracting good drivers.Lebo44 said:
Yes there are better candidates in F2 in terms of speed but in terms of possible financial backing Latifi has no competition He's a test driver for Williams right now which is a big factor I believe. And it was confirmed by Claire two weeks ago that he's on the shortlist. Also Williams' results are not helping in attracting good drivers.
Thanks - been a bit slack keeping tabs on the F2 drivers this year, other than just watching the races. He's a test driver for Williams right now which is a big factor I believe. And it was confirmed by Claire two weeks ago that he's on the shortlist. Also Williams' results are not helping in attracting good drivers.JonChalk said:
Who's in line for the Williams drive, then?
Ocon? Latifi (thought he's firmly tied to McLaren though)? DeVries (same as Latifi, but no room for both at Mc)? Aitken (Renault)?Ilott (thought he was Ferrari Academy)? Ghiotto?
Latif has o ties with Mclaren either, his dad buying a share of the company is purely business, no part of the deal involves a race seat for his son. Ocon? Latifi (thought he's firmly tied to McLaren though)? DeVries (same as Latifi, but no room for both at Mc)? Aitken (Renault)?Ilott (thought he was Ferrari Academy)? Ghiotto?
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