The Official F1 2020 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
vaud said:
There is a caveat to that rule that no team could be left without a supplier, and so the FIA can mandate a manufacturer to supply an additional team, IIRC.
Oh... So if Ferrari failed to get a regulation acceptable PU together one year, the FIA could decide Mercedes have to supply one to them..!?That would be amusing.
Edit: what if a supplier of three teams couldn't deliver? That would mean that not all three teams could have the same engine from single chosen supplier because that would break the 4 customer teams rule. How would they decide which of those teams were supplied by who?
Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 15th September 20:06
thegreenhell said:
The rule is that the manufacturer supplying the fewest teams must increase their supply in that case. If there is more than one manufacturer supplying the fewest (currently Honda and Renault) then there will be a ballot to decide who must supply.
Thanks - I had forgotten the nuance.thegreenhell said:
The rule is that the manufacturer supplying the fewest teams must increase their supply in that case. If there is more than one manufacturer supplying the fewest (currently Honda and Renault) then there will be a ballot to decide who must supply.
That would be one hell of a ballot.. vaud said:
There is a caveat to that rule that no team could be left without a supplier, and so the FIA can mandate a manufacturer to supply an additional team, IIRC.
I don't think that's in the regulations, but then Red Bull weren't completely without an engine as Renault never said no completely when they were looking for an engine. I think it was more an honour thing where an engine supplier would have their name drawn out of a hat and then had to supply RB but I'm not 100% sure.MissChief said:
I don't think that's in the regulations, but then Red Bull weren't completely without an engine as Renault never said no completely when they were looking for an engine. I think it was more an honour thing where an engine supplier would have their name drawn out of a hat and then had to supply RB but I'm not 100% sure.
Wonder how that would work financially? must be some kind of set-cost somewhere surelyRobert Kubica's agents are talking with Audi DTM team (this has been suggested earlier by well informed polish sources):
https://www.autosport.com/dtm/news/146033/audi-adm...
This is a B option for Kubica (in case of failed talks with Haas/Williams) as he still has powerful backers in Orlen who has recently promised to increase financial support for him (rumours say 15-20 Euro/season).
https://www.autosport.com/dtm/news/146033/audi-adm...
This is a B option for Kubica (in case of failed talks with Haas/Williams) as he still has powerful backers in Orlen who has recently promised to increase financial support for him (rumours say 15-20 Euro/season).
MissChief said:
vaud said:
There is a caveat to that rule that no team could be left without a supplier, and so the FIA can mandate a manufacturer to supply an additional team, IIRC.
I don't think that's in the regulations, but then Red Bull weren't completely without an engine as Renault never said no completely when they were looking for an engine. I think it was more an honour thing where an engine supplier would have their name drawn out of a hat and then had to supply RB but I'm not 100% sure."The FIA shall be entitled to request a Power Unit Manufacturer to supply a team with a power unit under the terms of this Appendix...", subject to a list of conditions being met, one of which is that no engine manufacturer can be compelled to supply the team of another automotive manufacturer.
Allyc85 said:
Sorry if it has already been covered, but is Ocon still a Mercedes contracted driver next year, or has he cut his ties completely with them?
Cut completely. Wolff has already said his simulator time is being reduced and he’s not getting invites to technical meetings. He’s not being allowed any “new” Merc knowledge. Allyc85 said:
JonChalk said:
Cut completely. Wolff has already said his simulator time is being reduced and he’s not getting invites to technical meetings. He’s not being allowed any “new” Merc knowledge.
Thought it would be that way. Cheers 
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mercede...
JonChalk said:
Allyc85 said:
Sorry if it has already been covered, but is Ocon still a Mercedes contracted driver next year, or has he cut his ties completely with them?
Cut completely. Wolff has already said his simulator time is being reduced and he’s not getting invites to technical meetings. He’s not being allowed any “new” Merc knowledge. It will be great to see him in the Renault alongside DR, a known to be very good driver. Should give a good comparison of Ocon's ability and perhaps help settle the debate as to how good he potentially is. I think good, not spectacular though, and probably won't out-shine DR...
TheDeuce said:
Essentially they couldn't magic him a seat within the Merc family so they have ejected him. I always kinda expected this to be honest. There has been so much (too much) speculation of Bottas somehow needing to leave to 'make way' for an Ocon return... Never seemed logical or likely though. There was no seat in sight in which to place Ocon - I'm sure in their heart of hearts both Ocon and Toto knew as much before even the start of this season.
It will be great to see him in the Renault alongside DR, a known to be very good driver. Should give a good comparison of Ocon's ability and perhaps help settle the debate as to how good he potentially is. I think good, not spectacular though, and probably won't out-shine DR...
I agree with that prediction - I also think DR will have the better of Ocon.It will be great to see him in the Renault alongside DR, a known to be very good driver. Should give a good comparison of Ocon's ability and perhaps help settle the debate as to how good he potentially is. I think good, not spectacular though, and probably won't out-shine DR...
I would love to see RIC in the Ferrari next year. VET, as discussed at length, is not delivering. If any rookie had made the number of mistakes as VET in the past 12 months, they would be canned. We would then have HAM vs VER vs RIC/LEC - a mouth-watering prospect.</speculation>
Has RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
Has RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
HurryUpAndWait said:
I would love to see RIC in the Ferrari next year. VET, as discussed at length, is not delivering. If any rookie had made the number of mistakes as VET in the past 12 months, they would be canned. We would then have HAM vs VER vs RIC/LEC - a mouth-watering prospect.</speculation>
Has RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
Is this maths? It looks like maths. Has RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
HurryUpAndWait said:
I would love to see RIC in the Ferrari next year. VET, as discussed at length, is not delivering. If any rookie had made the number of mistakes as VET in the past 12 months, they would be canned. We would then have HAM vs VER vs RIC/LEC - a mouth-watering prospect.</speculation>
Has RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
I’m sure I heard that he has an escape option of Ferrari or Mercedes come knockingHas RIC got a release clause if Renault are not competitive?
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