Official 2019 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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Rumblestripe

2,957 posts

163 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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TheDeuce said:
Give a kid an F1 car, it's just what you get biggrin

Albeit, Max was/is in a league of his own. He's calmed down quite a bit this year I think though.

2018:
- Referred to the Renault engine as a piece of st on open radio twice
- Destroyed his car in Monaco Quali
- Told a room full of journalists he would head butt the next one to ask him a question he didn't like
- Shoved Ocon off the scales, after fighting him on track for no reason.
- The Baku crash with DR...
- Endless questionable moves, some of which worked, many which were hilarious.

2019:
- Slightly poor handling of a stty release in the pit lane
- One very questionable but kind of understandable lunge on LH

He has time yet, but on balance I'd say a mild improvement.
Give the lad half a chance, it's only race six! biggrin

Deesee

8,460 posts

84 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Heres another angle to of the perez vs stewards..

https://streamable.com/i1tlg

Brave brave guys, carry on picking up afterwards..

heebeegeetee

28,776 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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cuprabob said:
Love him or loathe his, Max makes the racing more interesting...
I think Hamilton's been making the racing more interesting for the whole of his career. In F1, from his first race in 2007 til last Sunday just, for 12 solid years Hamilton has been one to watch and time after time, a driver to marvel at.

Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just. frown

What *do* fans want?

(Answer: There's no answer to that).

Deesee

8,460 posts

84 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Deesee said:
Heres another angle to of the perez vs stewards..

https://streamable.com/i1tlg

Brave brave guys, carry on picking up afterwards..
Perez as he leaves the pit lane..



Literally 0.5 of a second he’s up to 150kph and hard on the brakes down to 80kph..


TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Deesee said:
Heres another angle to of the perez vs stewards..

https://streamable.com/i1tlg

Brave brave guys, carry on picking up afterwards..
Indeed. Most people, far from staying behind to pick more up, would have left something fresh on the track as they waddled off to safety.

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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TheDeuce said:
He has time yet, but on balance I'd say a mild improvement.
He has plenty of time to become a WDC.

I would guess by the venerable age of 25 biggrin

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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heebeegeetee said:
I think Hamilton's been making the racing more interesting for the whole of his career. In F1, from his first race in 2007 til last Sunday just, for 12 solid years Hamilton has been one to watch and time after time, a driver to marvel at.

Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just. frown

What *do* fans want?

(Answer: There's no answer to that).
I follow teams rather than drivers, but I reckon that Hamilton is the most exciting driver on the circuit and has been since he's graced the sport. There's not suggestion that he's perfect; I man, he has tattoos and odd haircuts, just like people. He seems to enjoy the sport. His emotions are often out in the open. Thank heavens he's driving.

MV is good to watch but it's normally just to see whom he's going to drive into.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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sparta6 said:
Apparently Bottas broke the rules under Safety Car

Did he receive a penalty ?
humour us & tell us which rule that is ...considering they hadn't actually caught the safety car up & so the 10 car length rule didn't/ doesn't apply

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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& just to emphasize how good Merc compared to how poor Ferrari have been...



Edited by angrymoby on Tuesday 28th May 19:42

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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angrymoby said:
& to emphasize how good Merc to just how poor Ferrari have been...

Yea.. nearly doubled up on the points. Max is single handedly closer to Ferrari's combined points than they are to Mercedes. If Monaco had gone Max's way red bull would be level pegging now...

I guess red bull will be pushing very hard with development right now. They have a seriously good chance of 2nd in the WCC.

Deesee

8,460 posts

84 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Great vid here from the f1 insta team...

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByBAHusgwAA/?hl=en

Deesee

8,460 posts

84 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Bottas in Quali..

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByAirkygOtE/?hl=en

Ever seen an f1 car do that at lowes?

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Deesee said:
Bottas in Quali..

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByAirkygOtE/?hl=en

Ever seen an f1 car do that at lowes?
I'd love to see that analysed against the normal 'with traction' approach. Which is faster?

Normally powersliding is an awful way around a corner, but he did manage to rotate the car far beyond what the steering lock would allow, and came out neat and straight smile

Perhaps not the best corner for such larking about! But good to see the level of skill and instinctive control these guys have.

Jasandjules

69,931 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Deesee said:
Bottas in Quali..

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByAirkygOtE/?hl=en

Ever seen an f1 car do that at lowes?
Understeer, oversteer, wombling free......

entropy

5,449 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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mw88 said:
Some interesting trickery going on with Mercs suspension

https://streamable.com/66x9w
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.tech-tuesday-the-key-factor-behind-the-big-increase-in-speed-at-monaco.1cixZX6gy9G9Sb7Zj3ZraL.html

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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entropy said:
Huge shift in geometry in the final stage of lock. Look at him holding hard lock to keep it engaged too.

Almost looks as if the inner front is raised slightly on lock to transfer everything to the outer.

It's hard to understand the full benefit of the movement they have achieved. But given the forces involved, to get such a positive shift in the last couple of degrees of lock is very impressive. The precision and strength of each component required to do that blows my mind.

GCH

3,993 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th May 2019
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Suspect they will probably ban that...on the grounds of it being a moveable aerodynamic or similar.
Shame, as it is clever, and clearly works

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Wednesday 29th May 2019
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GCH said:
Suspect they will probably ban that...on the grounds of it being a moveable aerodynamic or similar.
Shame, as it is clever, and clearly works
I doubt it. It doesn't need to move any more than the aerodynamically enhanced suspension elements on any other F1 car, it's just at which point it moves to the extreme, and what effect that has on the geometry of the wheel.

Perhaps it will turn out to be determined to break regulation, who knows (probably Mercedes lawyers and engineers know that it shouldn't do..), but I think this might just be a bit of genuine game changing innovation in F1, despite the heavy regulation. Been quite some time since anyone found a genuinely new mechanical advantage - so I hope that's what we're seeing here!

gtsralph

1,188 posts

145 months

Wednesday 29th May 2019
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