Official 2019 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Yeh about that.. not had FP1/2, but I’d say ish that pole to 5th
I dunno. That same gap (different cars of course) was just 0.6s last year. 1.3 seconds... What's the thinking based on?The gap wasn't that big to 5th in Baku this year either, which is about the closest comparison we have from this year so far.
Hass should run well, they’ve got similar downforce potential as Merc.. should be best of the rest, could split the bulls, who like Vaud above I fancy one of them (Max) to nab 3/4th in quali and or split the Ferraris.
Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
Deesee said:
Hass should run well, they’ve got similar downforce potential as Merc.. should be best of the rest, could split the bulls, who like Vaud above I fancy one of them (Max) to nab 3/4th in quali and or split the Ferraris.
Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
Consistency is important in F1.Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
It wasn't his finest race.
Deesee said:
20 kph... (about a second)..
Merc were roughly 0.2 a corner (slow ones) quicker in Baku.
Fair play. Well.. we shall see soon enough! If they really are 1.3 seconds off pace, then that'll mean they have a whole world of other cars to tangle with on Sunday. And for the first time, probably two red bulls ahead of them.Merc were roughly 0.2 a corner (slow ones) quicker in Baku.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Formation flying of the silver arrows in honour of Niki this weekend I hope.
If there was ever a good reason, this would be it.I'm sure a whole lot of people (and teams) are rushing to put together whatever tributes they can ahead of this weekend now. I'm equally sure he wouldn't want too much fanfare but... I think he's just going to have to accept it all!
I expect it's going to be a genuinely very emotional weekend - in a lovely way, of course. Some sadness, but mostly very happy and positive memories.
Derek Smith said:
Deesee said:
Hass should run well, they’ve got similar downforce potential as Merc.. should be best of the rest, could split the bulls, who like Vaud above I fancy one of them (Max) to nab 3/4th in quali and or split the Ferraris.
Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
Consistency is important in F1.Hass however do have this guy, who is a bit of a liability here.. here’s his 2013 highlights ...
https://gfycat.com/partialperiodicchihuahua-grand-...
It wasn't his finest race.
suffolk009 said:
As ever at Monaco it'll be a bit processional. But I love Monaco weekend.
My earliest memories of motor racing are watching F1 cars going around Monaco, especially the Hairpin, and the tunnel. I found that exciting even before I understood what F1 was.
On the other hand, we're due an exciting Monaco GP, it's been a few years since we saw a series of bizarre incidents - the track certainly still has that potential.My earliest memories of motor racing are watching F1 cars going around Monaco, especially the Hairpin, and the tunnel. I found that exciting even before I understood what F1 was.
I too remember seeing hairpin as a kid when my dad was watching F1. I never really got into the sport until years later, 2008 I was working in Monaco. I want for a little wander one evening and stumbled upon the hairpin. I couldn't believe the elevation change or just how tight it really is. That's when I started to watch and follow the sport properly.
Petrus1983 said:
I’ve gone from firmly hoping it wouldn’t be a Mercedes 1-2 this weekend to praying it is. No matter where they end up I’m quite sure Mercedes will perfectly handle this weekend.
Well quite. Lewis knows the finest way to say thank you to a fellow former champion is to win the race. And the whole team will wish for the same of course. I'm sure they'll be incredibly focussed on the business of winning.It was always likely to be a Merc 1-2. I think they'll now do it with just a little more authority and confidence. I think they'll be 'on it' all weekend.
DuncB7 said:
2019 Formula One Technical Regulations, Article 10.4.1:
"Any steering system which permits the re?alignment of more than two wheels is not permitted"
That doesn't include suspension geometry I don't think. The definition doesn't capture that, as it's not a 'steering' system. At no point can it be steered, it's just tuned to give a very slight bias that is more often that not of fractional advantage to the way the driver wants to steer the car."Any steering system which permits the re?alignment of more than two wheels is not permitted"
A mistake on this thread has been to refer to it as RWS. It's really not. Most race cars will have a setup that marginally alters the toe in/out and/or camber of the wheels through the suspension. I don't think the people designing or scrutinising such common setup technique would claim it was a RWS system though.
Actual RWS would be digitally controlled, and probably mapped to each circuit with the driver able to take over control of the degree of steering if needed. That's the route which the regs block, as that would indeed be 'steering'.
PhillipM said:
Exactly, it's the same rumour that's rolled around every year for the past decade, nothing in it.
Well.. there may be something in it, they may be doing something new/clever with the geometry. Or some extra stage of movement when that one corner is fully loaded. They have £400m+ a year so they can have teams of lawyers pouring over the regs looking for the tiniest area they can exploit - and then the R&D resources to make the best of any area of opportunity they can find. If we wait 10 years someone might write a book and we can find out! Otherwise, probably we will never know.The problem is, each time an advantage is suspected it gets referred to as 'rear wheel steering'. Which isn't the same thing at all.
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