Official 2019 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
entropy said:
mw88 said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.tech-tuesday-the-key-factor-behind-the-big-increase-in-speed-at-monaco.1cixZX6gy9G9Sb7Zj3ZraL.htmlImportantly not (movable) aero..
Deesee said:
Ferrari and Red Bull have had for over a year, it’s less noticeable/has less effect due to the rake of the car.
Importantly not (movable) aero..
In essence, like the 'rear wheel steering' debate, it's all the same thing, suspension geometry. It does appear Mercedes have a surprising amount going on at the limit of lock though. Probably nothing 'unique', so much as Mercedes in typical fashion finding the most efficient and effective solution.Importantly not (movable) aero..
I used the word innovation before - perhaps 'extreme evolution' is more accurate.
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Ferrari and Red Bull have had for over a year, it’s less noticeable/has less effect due to the rake of the car.
Importantly not (movable) aero..
In essence, like the 'rear wheel steering' debate, it's all the same thing, suspension geometry. It does appear Mercedes have a surprising amount going on at the limit of lock though. Probably nothing 'unique', so much as Mercedes in typical fashion finding the most efficient and effective solution.Importantly not (movable) aero..
I used the word innovation before - perhaps 'extreme evolution' is more accurate.
angrymoby said:
sparta6 said:
Apparently Bottas broke the rules under Safety Car
Did he receive a penalty ?
humour us & tell us which rule that is ...considering they hadn't actually caught the safety car up & so the 10 car length rule didn't/ doesn't applyDid he receive a penalty ?
sparta6 said:
angrymoby said:
sparta6 said:
Apparently Bottas broke the rules under Safety Car
Did he receive a penalty ?
humour us & tell us which rule that is ...considering they hadn't actually caught the safety car up & so the 10 car length rule didn't/ doesn't applyDid he receive a penalty ?
The lead group were at the lowes hairpin and therefore about to approach the tunnel and pool sections (quick bits which they have to drive slow), they will drive to a min lap delta.
It was not a crash at turn one, where everyone will slow down for that corner, it was shards of carbon everywhere, everyone was going slow, even guys that did not box under SC were doing 1.50’s.
heebeegeetee said:
I think Hamilton's been making the racing more interesting for the whole of his career. In F1, from his first race in 2007 til last Sunday just, for 12 solid years Hamilton has been one to watch and time after time, a driver to marvel at.
Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
Could not agree with this more. Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
I've said it many times.. Once he retires that's it. Only then will people realise what an affect he has had on this sport. And only then will he truly be appreciated.
I remember watching schumacher cruise to world titles with no competition. It amazes me the level of moaning going on about recent years.
Spawn said:
I remember watching schumacher cruise to world titles with no competition. It amazes me the level of moaning going on about recent years.
Ermm, I seem to remember Schumacher receiving pretty fierce competition and close racing from:Williams - Hill
Williams - Villeneuve
McLaren - Hakkinen
Renault - Alonso
Spawn said:
heebeegeetee said:
I think Hamilton's been making the racing more interesting for the whole of his career. In F1, from his first race in 2007 til last Sunday just, for 12 solid years Hamilton has been one to watch and time after time, a driver to marvel at.
Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
Could not agree with this more. Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
I've said it many times.. Once he retires that's it. Only then will people realise what an affect he has had on this sport. And only then will he truly be appreciated.
I remember watching schumacher cruise to world titles with no competition. It amazes me the level of moaning going on about recent years.
But overall, yes - future legend no doubt.
Bo_apex said:
Spawn said:
I remember watching schumacher cruise to world titles with no competition. It amazes me the level of moaning going on about recent years.
Ermm, I seem to remember Schumacher receiving pretty fierce competition and close racing from:Williams - Hill
Williams - Villeneuve
McLaren - Hakkinen
Renault - Alonso
It's easy to forget that 2000 and 2003 were relatively close run championships (Championship sealed at penultimate race) since 2001, 2002 and 2004 were such dominant wins where the only question was how early in the season could Schumacher win.
TheDeuce said:
Spawn said:
heebeegeetee said:
I think Hamilton's been making the racing more interesting for the whole of his career. In F1, from his first race in 2007 til last Sunday just, for 12 solid years Hamilton has been one to watch and time after time, a driver to marvel at.
Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
Could not agree with this more. Yet the whinging we've had about him. Twelve solid years of whinging, right up to last Sunday just.
What *do* fans want?
(Answer: There's no answer to that).
I've said it many times.. Once he retires that's it. Only then will people realise what an affect he has had on this sport. And only then will he truly be appreciated.
I remember watching schumacher cruise to world titles with no competition. It amazes me the level of moaning going on about recent years.
But overall, yes - future legend no doubt.
Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
CustardOnChips said:
Don't many consider Aloso a legend?
Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
He was undoubtedly a legend in his own mind, but I think he will be remembered as the guy who failed to reach his full potential. Largely down to his own poor judgment.Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
In fairness, I actually think that any driver who wins a WDC becomes a legend. I don’t think that Hill or Button were the greatest of their respective eras, but their status will forever be recorded in history.
Teddy Lop said:
CustardOnChips said:
Don't many consider Aloso a legend?
Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
has he really?Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
Or are you going to mention that Button won more points over 3 seasons despite finishing behind in the championship twice!
CustardOnChips said:
Teddy Lop said:
CustardOnChips said:
Don't many consider Aloso a legend?
Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
has he really?Hes had world champions in the same team and beaten them all.
Or are you going to mention that Button won more points over 3 seasons despite finishing behind in the championship twice!
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