Fernando Alonso

Fernando Alonso

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TheDeuce

7,303 posts

24 months

Thursday 15th October
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He's getting ready for being the centre of attention again!

Here's Alonso on why Alonso is the best driver wherever he drives, even Indycar 500 apparently...

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.i-score...

“Throughout my career, when the engines were V10 or V8, we were there all the time, with Michelin, Pirelli, we were still there in the top positions,” he said. “The wet conditions were always good for me, and now when I’ve gone to other categories, to go to the Dakar Rally and be amongst the top five was a good surprise for me. To jump in a car and… be able to lead in the Indy 500 was a surprise to me."

9/10 for modesty smile

Schermerhorn

3,847 posts

147 months

Thursday 15th October
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TheDeuce said:
He's getting ready for being the centre of attention again!

Here's Alonso on why Alonso is the best driver wherever he drives, even Indycar 500 apparently...

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.i-score...

“Throughout my career, when the engines were V10 or V8, we were there all the time, with Michelin, Pirelli, we were still there in the top positions,” he said. “The wet conditions were always good for me, and now when I’ve gone to other categories, to go to the Dakar Rally and be amongst the top five was a good surprise for me. To jump in a car and… be able to lead in the Indy 500 was a surprise to me."

9/10 for modesty smile
Self belief goes an awful long way in a sport where your success is measured in milliseconds.

Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.

TheDeuce

7,303 posts

24 months

Thursday 15th October
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Schermerhorn said:
TheDeuce said:
He's getting ready for being the centre of attention again!

Here's Alonso on why Alonso is the best driver wherever he drives, even Indycar 500 apparently...

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.i-score...

“Throughout my career, when the engines were V10 or V8, we were there all the time, with Michelin, Pirelli, we were still there in the top positions,” he said. “The wet conditions were always good for me, and now when I’ve gone to other categories, to go to the Dakar Rally and be amongst the top five was a good surprise for me. To jump in a car and… be able to lead in the Indy 500 was a surprise to me."

9/10 for modesty smile
Self belief goes an awful long way in a sport where your success is measured in milliseconds.

Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.
We'll see how hard it proves to be soon enough. Also whether or not it's a number we need to judge in milliseconds...

He is mentally very strong, or cocksure, perhaps?

ash73

19,263 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October
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Looking forward to seeing him back.

It would ace if Renault continue their current trajectory and he jumps straight in a race winning car, after all the mistakes he's made in the past!

TheDeuce

7,303 posts

24 months

Thursday 15th October
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ash73 said:
Looking forward to seeing him back.

It would ace if Renault continue their current trajectory and he jumps straight in a race winning car, after all the mistakes he's made in the past!
I think he'll look like he's on top form regardless, because Ocon is a bit... not the best.

Are Renault on a trajectory though? Or just about to bounce off their ceiling of performance again vs the other upper midfield teams? We have been here before with the current incarnation of Renault. Back in 2018 they were 'on a trajectory', until it appeared they made no substantial progress going in to 2019 at which point everyone else jumped ahead - their own customer beat them.

I'll be fair and say that at long last their PU looks like it has teeth AND also a reasonable level of reliability. They have made progress. I'm just not sure it's enough and I'm not convinced they have much of a chance of their realistic target - to lead the midfield this season or next season. Obviously this season they've just made up a lot of ground vs McLaren due to DR's podium and Norris's DNF. Hardly a strategy they can expect to repeat each weekend though. I reckon Mclaren will have them 3 years on the row come the end of next season. Even with Alonso's upcoming motivational radio speeches.

Exige77

5,431 posts

149 months

Thursday 15th October
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TheDeuce said:
Schermerhorn said:
TheDeuce said:
He's getting ready for being the centre of attention again!

Here's Alonso on why Alonso is the best driver wherever he drives, even Indycar 500 apparently...

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.i-score...

“Throughout my career, when the engines were V10 or V8, we were there all the time, with Michelin, Pirelli, we were still there in the top positions,” he said. “The wet conditions were always good for me, and now when I’ve gone to other categories, to go to the Dakar Rally and be amongst the top five was a good surprise for me. To jump in a car and… be able to lead in the Indy 500 was a surprise to me."

9/10 for modesty smile
Self belief goes an awful long way in a sport where your success is measured in milliseconds.

Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.
We'll see how hard it proves to be soon enough. Also whether or not it's a number we need to judge in milliseconds...

He is mentally very strong, or cocksure, perhaps?
Just waiting for one of the Honda powered drivers to come up behind him and get on the radio complaining they are being held up by a GP2 driver smile

TheDeuce

7,303 posts

24 months

Thursday 15th October
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Exige77 said:
Just waiting for one of the Honda powered drivers to come up behind him and get on the radio complaining they are being held up by a GP2 driver smile
If one of them did Honda might decide to hang in for another season! smile

They won't forget that comment, ever. Nor should they, given it should never have been a comment made publicly in the first place.

angrymoby

1,250 posts

136 months

Friday 16th October
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be interesting to see him bring that 6/10ths with him ...should be right up there with Verstappen wink

although i'm being facetious, i want Alonso back & doing well- as F1 is better with him in it

& also be interesting to see how another WDC winning 40 year old coming back from a lengthy sabbatical gets on wink

Mr_Thyroid

1,893 posts

185 months

Friday 16th October
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Yes it's actually the same length of sabbatical as Schumacher - it seems shorter, I guess because he's kept himself in the news - it hardly seems like he been gone at all.

I wonder if Alonso's preparation has been better? What did Schumacher do apart from tootle around on a motorbike, occasionally falling off?

WickerBill

528 posts

6 months

Friday 16th October
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Schermerhorn said:
Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.
Well apart from his mental breakdown against hamilton, inability to get 1st gen mclaren on side, bribing the team, falling out with honda in both F1 and Indycar and inability to get ferrari on his side....

.....but yeh, other than that hes utterly brilliant at at it laugh

Piginapoke

1,262 posts

143 months

Friday 16th October
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He'll bring trouble; always has, always will.



The Moose

20,216 posts

167 months

Friday 16th October
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Piginapoke said:
He'll bring trouble; always has, always will.
Agreed. Wish he’d stay away really.

mike-v2tmf

289 posts

37 months

Friday 16th October
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I cant stand the guy , his earlier stint at McLaren with a young Lewis reminds me of a recent Red Bull driver whining into his radio .........." They race me too hard" , except Fred went further , spitting his dummy and more than once as I remember .

rev-erend

20,572 posts

242 months

Friday 16th October
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He will be dusting off his racing drivers book of excuses ..

jsf

19,274 posts

194 months

Friday 16th October
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Fred is a machine, F1 is better having a guy like him in a competitive car and all the signs are Renault will give him a car he can exploit. It will certainly be better than the dog the McLaren-Honda was.

2022 is going to be Epic. biggrin

glazbagun

10,974 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th October
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I am at least curious to see if Alonso will make Ocon look like another Vandoorne or himself like another Schumacher.

HTP99

17,141 posts

98 months

Saturday 17th October
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glazbagun said:
I am at least curious to see if Alonso will make Ocon look like another Vandoorne or himself like another Schumacher.
TBF Ocon is doing a good job already, without Alonso there!

Mr Tidy

12,365 posts

85 months

Sunday 18th October
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WickerBill said:
Schermerhorn said:
Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.
Well apart from his mental breakdown against hamilton, inability to get 1st gen mclaren on side, bribing the team, falling out with honda in both F1 and Indycar and inability to get ferrari on his side....

.....but yeh, other than that hes utterly brilliant at at it laugh
He certainly comes with some baggage - I can't see it going well TBH!

Schermerhorn

3,847 posts

147 months

Monday 19th October
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WickerBill said:
Schermerhorn said:
Mentally, Alonso is very strong and knows how to self motivate himself and also get people onto his side.

Hard to beat someone like that.
Well apart from his mental breakdown against hamilton, inability to get 1st gen mclaren on side, bribing the team, falling out with honda in both F1 and Indycar and inability to get ferrari on his side....

.....but yeh, other than that hes utterly brilliant at at it laugh
There's always an unpleasant aftertaste with some people isn't there?

If Alonso was as inept you suggest the guy wouldnt have commanded $40,000,000 annual salaries at Mclaren and Ferrari would he? He brings his A-game to every team, despite the drama and theatrics.

Catatafish

1,070 posts

103 months

Monday 19th October
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The ominous message from Merc was that they stopped developing this year's car ages ago hence all the other teams look pretty good at this stage.

Merc will likely continue on form with a big advantage in the first half of next season, which will prompt the usual moaning from Alonso. Let's hope there's some dramatic and unexpected shake up.