Official 2019 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
He did in fact state that it could be a case of RUS instead of OCO at Mercedes, he mainly clarified that BOT was on his way out.
Just suggested the same in "speculation" thread; Ocon's had his chance, if he was considered good enough he should have been in the merc this year.

Vaud

50,734 posts

156 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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JonChalk said:
Just suggested the same in "speculation" thread; Ocon's had his chance, if he was considered good enough he should have been in the merc this year.
I think it is more complex than that - they had (IIRC) committed to Bottas, placed Ocon at Renault and something happened with Ricciardo out of their control, leaving no seat. I think it was timings, not talent.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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Vaud said:
JonChalk said:
Just suggested the same in "speculation" thread; Ocon's had his chance, if he was considered good enough he should have been in the merc this year.
I think it is more complex than that - they had (IIRC) committed to Bottas, placed Ocon at Renault and something happened with Ricciardo out of their control, leaving no seat. I think it was timings, not talent.
Have heard similar before (& not suggesting it's wrong) but I think it ended up that way as a consequence not picking Ocon sooner / more decisively. In Merc's eyes, he clearly isn't a Bottas-beater, so actually why bother now?

Gazzab

21,114 posts

283 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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That’s interesting re 2nd seat at Mercedes. They need someone who can take the baton from Hamilton. Botas whilst an amazing driver and a seemingly decent chap isn’t the man to deliver as no 1. So will be interesting to see if they will take a punt on someone new whilst Hamilton is still in the groove.

Deesee

8,478 posts

84 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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Back to 2x DRS zones this year.. the start finish line into ‘abbey’ has gone.

Deesee

8,478 posts

84 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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Want to stop drivers gaining an advantage off the track, gravel sorts that out..



Lots of ’verstoppen’ banana/sausage curbs in too.





& where the those did not quite work last year, the new Croc teeth solution, floor wreckers..


HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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JonChalk said:
Vaud said:
JonChalk said:
Just suggested the same in "speculation" thread; Ocon's had his chance, if he was considered good enough he should have been in the merc this year.
I think it is more complex than that - they had (IIRC) committed to Bottas, placed Ocon at Renault and something happened with Ricciardo out of their control, leaving no seat. I think it was timings, not talent.
Have heard similar before (& not suggesting it's wrong) but I think it ended up that way as a consequence not picking Ocon sooner / more decisively. In Merc's eyes, he clearly isn't a Bottas-beater, so actually why bother now?
How come you don’t rate Ocon, from where I’m sitting he slotted right in at Force India and made Perez sweat, equally Perez is a match for Hulkenberg and I think both of these benchmarks are perennially underrated.

I think Ocon vs. Russell would be an interesting contest and not one I feel I can predict.

Nice problem for Mercedes to have, especially with their competitors scratching around for decent young drivers.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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If Mercedes have any problem filling their seats I think it's a problem of their own making!

They don't need a succession plan for HAM for goodness sake, as soon as he decides to retire they can basically have whoever they want. Even if it costs VER £100M to buy himself out of his Red Bull contract he'll do it to get that seat.

Remember when Senna offered to get in the Williams for free?

The Moose

22,882 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Piginapoke said:
The Moose said:
Thanks for starting the thread thumbup

It would be a shame to lose Silverstone from the calendar, but your intro is a bit melodramatic!
I'm really sad!!
Don't need to worry now thumbup

bobbo89

5,250 posts

146 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Europa1 said:
Derek Smith said:
I've changed my post for you.
Thank you - you have done wonders for my blood pressure. beer
Now go back and check his spelling of Baku! hehe

Derek Smith

45,798 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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bobbo89 said:
Europa1 said:
Derek Smith said:
I've changed my post for you.
Thank you - you have done wonders for my blood pressure. beer
Now go back and check his spelling of Baku! hehe
My spell-checker on Google switches itself off when the mood takes it. It's very irritating.

I've not saved Leclerc to the dictionary so I can remember to prefix it with bloody every time.


Andy S15

399 posts

128 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Bottas is 2nd in the drivers championship and Wolff has said many times this year that he's in the form of his life. I don't really know what more they want or expect from a second driver right now, especially when they have been vocal about not wanting another Nico vs Lewis situation. Why would they put Ocon in? I don't get it and I don't believe it.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? That "to whom it may concern, f**k you" radio broadcast in Australia didn't sound like a sweeping insult to me, it sounded like he had someone in mind and knew how to bring it to their attention.

TheDeuce

22,001 posts

67 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Deesee said:
Want to stop drivers gaining an advantage off the track, gravel sorts that out..



Lots of ’verstoppen’ banana/sausage curbs in too.





& where the those did not quite work last year, the new Croc teeth solution, floor wreckers..

Good odds on some FP/quali floor damage then!

This is a double home race for Williams (team & driver), hope they're finally on top of the spares situation...

I'm happy to see these changes. Not least because it might stop anymore 'gaining an advantage' penalty debates. No need to penalise if the offending car has wrecked itself in doing so.

Edited by TheDeuce on Thursday 11th July 08:09

HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? That "to whom it may concern, f**k you" radio broadcast in Australia didn't sound like a sweeping insult to me, it sounded like he had someone in mind and knew how to bring it to their attention.
Financial backers who stopped backing him, nothing to do with Mercedes obviously- otherwise, why say it?

Deesee

8,478 posts

84 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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HustleRussell said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? That "to whom it may concern, f**k you" radio broadcast in Australia didn't sound like a sweeping insult to me, it sounded like he had someone in mind and knew how to bring it to their attention.
Financial backers who stopped backing him, nothing to do with Mercedes obviously- otherwise, why say it?
Spot on...

Vaud

50,734 posts

156 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Deesee said:
HustleRussell said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? That "to whom it may concern, f**k you" radio broadcast in Australia didn't sound like a sweeping insult to me, it sounded like he had someone in mind and knew how to bring it to their attention.
Financial backers who stopped backing him, nothing to do with Mercedes obviously- otherwise, why say it?
Spot on...
https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/21170

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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majordad said:
Is the Porsche Supercup televised and where?
It is on the F1 channel but the races are usually as boring as a race can get, my opinion obviously.


paulguitar

23,729 posts

114 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Norfolkit said:
majordad said:
Is the Porsche Supercup televised and where?
It is on the F1 channel but the races are usually as boring as a race can get, my opinion obviously.
Mine too, usually makes even F1 seem exciting...

TheDeuce

22,001 posts

67 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Norfolkit said:
It is on the F1 channel but the races are usually as boring as a race can get, my opinion obviously.
Seriously. I can cope with F2, in fact increasingly I enjoy F2... Porsche? Nah - it's like super slow motion racing. Not there is anything wrong with Porsche, very well sorted drivers cars for sure. It's just hard to stay awake watching them dribble around the track compared to what us F1 fans are used to smile