Official 2019 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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Vaud

50,534 posts

155 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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lord summerisle said:
Easy. With so many people in the area, it wasnt like you could get internet signal.
I did say today... wink

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Blink982 said:
No offence to any cricket fans but it really wound me up hearing people booing when they turned the cricket off on one of the big screens when Lewis was coming on stage. After all, thousands of us stayed back to see him and hear what he had to say after his record victory and battle with VB. It looked to me like his appearance was cut short by what is a meaningless game of rounders (to me, I'm not a fan of cricket and didn't even realise there was a world Cup on).

What exactly did Christian Horner say about Vettel and the next gp in Germany?
they kind of bungled how they handled it, like they did putting the world cup on the track screens using a split screen that left both too small to realistically watch during the f2 last year.

Sure, give your football fans etc a place to keep up but remember most of us are here for the motorsport.

Great race though and great its staying, being there and watching like f3 qually or FP on a friday with more fans in attendance than who turn up to see the race at certain tracks makes you wonder what liberty are playing around at, although having followed f1 for years I'm bored by now of hearing of the imminent demise of the British GP, I wonder if its just a marketing tool now.

blueg33

35,922 posts

224 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Dinoboy said:
Best thing about yesterday was the glimpse into the future when Max and Charles are battling away for world championships once Lewis and Seb have hung up their gloves.
Lewis's career still seems to in ascendency as a driver, as a racer and as a team player. Vettel’s appears to be waning.

Stan the Bat

8,929 posts

212 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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HighwayStar said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Did anyone notice the very awkward interview with Coulthard, Webber and the two annoying Spice GIrls Geri and Mel B?

Coulthard broke away from the interview very swiftly when Mel B mentioned something about knowing him very well.

laugh
YES!!!! I was surprised no one else mentioned it. It was all a bit awkward, Mel B started saying we go way back when DC broke away swiftly. It was definitely a case of reverse thrust Mr Sulu. That anthem arrived in the nick of time. I wonder....
Yes, I noticed that , did seem awkward. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Not F1, but now promoting boxing & putting out new stuff still with the Whyte bikes logo.

I know (having been corrected back a few pages) that the injunction isn't in force yet, but still, he's making it worse isn't he?

https://twitter.com/rich_energy/status/11507707631...

plus; the lone https://richenergyevents.com event; it's bit of a sad website isn't it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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zebra said:
REALIST123 said:
zebra said:
bobbo89 said:
zebra said:
Stop going on about Hamilton being lucky. There was some luck with the safety car but Bottas needed two stops and Hamilton only required one stop amongst many other things, so to suggest that Hamilton would not have won without the safety car, is utter b*llocks.
I've not suggested Hamilton wouldn't have won without the safety car at all, he probably would have done as like I said, he has incredible race craft. I'm simply saying that the safety car made it an easier win for him, which it did, he won a race having not been on pole without having to overtake anyone on track!
He’s won a huge number of races without being on pole. Irrelevant.

He would have likely won easily yesterday without the safety car with Bottas needing to make a second stop.

And with that in mind, Bottas second stop would have been much harder without his ‘luck’ of Vettel and Verstappen coming together.

Just let it go.
I haven’t seen any evidence that Bottas ‘needed’ an extra stop. He certainly took an extra one, necessitated by fitting the same Medium at his first stop.

A tactical error, for Bottas at least, as they’ve now admitted, or perhaps splitting strategy. Whatever, it certainly benefitted Hamilton as did the S/C. I’m sure pitting Bottas first helped them decide how long to leave Hamilton out, too.
Bottas was on a two stop strategy. What evidence do you want?

Clearly not.

“Bottas admits tyre choice at first pit stop was a “mistake”

2019 British Grand Prix Posted on
14th July 2019, 21:00 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Keith Collantine

Valtteri Bottas says his choice of tyre at his first pit stop was a “mistake” because it locked him into a two-stop strategy.

Bottas, who led the opening laps of the race, was the first of the two Mercedes drivers to pit. He put on a second set of medium compound tyres, which ensured he would have to make a second pit stop later in the race.
At that point he was trying to stay close enough to Lewis Hamilton to ensure his team mate came out of the pits behind him.

“After my first stop I felt like it was under control,” said Bottas. “I was following the gap closely, the pit stop gap I had to Lewis, and I was just waiting for him to stop and obviously the Safety Car got him ahead of me at that point.


“I was stuck into a two-stop at that stage, because we stopped for the medium again from medium tyres so it meant anyway I had to stop in the end, which was a mistake from our side. A two-stop, we thought, would be by far the fastest but actually one stop was possible as well. Not quite ideal but one of these days.”

Bottas, who has fallen 39 points behind his team mate at the top of the points standings, drew some consolation by Mercedes’ one-two finish after their tough weekend in Austria.

“At least it felt like the pace was good today and yesterday so there are positives to take,” he said. “Also, really, really happy for us as a team, getting maximum points and it’s pretty impressive the gap to the teams behind now.”

He also prevailed in a hard-fought battle with Hamilton in the opening laps of the race. “we had good racing at the beginning and I really enjoyed it,” he said.

“That’s why we are here, to race hard and fair. I’m sure Toto [Wolff, team principal] didn’t maybe enjoy it as much as we did but it doesn’t matter.”

Flipatron

2,089 posts

198 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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lord summerisle said:
Easy. With so many people in the area, it wasnt like you could get internet signal.

was relaxing back at the campsite after getting back from the podium. Heard various cheers echoing around and wondered what it was.
And here's a picture of the picture


Edited by Flipatron on Monday 15th July 19:57

TheDeuce

21,579 posts

66 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Teddy Lop said:
Great race though and great its staying, being there and watching like f3 qually or FP on a friday with more fans in attendance than who turn up to see the race at certain tracks makes you wonder what liberty are playing around at, although having followed f1 for years I'm bored by now of hearing of the imminent demise of the British GP, I wonder if its just a marketing tool now.
I think Liberty can work out just how much of a money spinner F1 is for Silverstone, regardless of how much they suggest it's not affordable. So yeah, I do think they complain and pretend it's the last race every time the contract is up as they would a) love a reduction in price and/or some free money for the government and b) it's a good way to sell the place out.


Deesee

8,423 posts

83 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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TheDeuce said:
I think Liberty can work out just how much of a money spinner F1 is for Silverstone, regardless of how much they suggest it's not affordable. So yeah, I do think they complain and pretend it's the last race every time the contract is up as they would a) love a reduction in price and/or some free money for the government and b) it's a good way to sell the place out.
Liberty are trying to figure out how to get 300,000 of us in on race day..and the BRDC still break even..

Btw, the GOV. Do enough for the teams when it comes to R&D refunds (100%), perhaps the extra cash should come from them, with a concession on hospitality.

Silverstone needs to stay, (as much as I don’t like it), however the changes they have made to the circuit really work with the current regs.. great racing this weekend, & the track was integral to it. Well done Silverstone!

Deesee

8,423 posts

83 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Max V Vettel

https://streamable.com/ze2d1

(In Japanese, you must watch this)...

TheDeuce

21,579 posts

66 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Deesee said:
Max V Vettel

https://streamable.com/ze2d1

(In Japanese, you must watch this)...
Japanese? Sounds like Crofty to me biggrin

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Deesee said:
Max V Vettel

https://streamable.com/ze2d1

(In Japanese, you must watch this)...
Watching it from this angle I'm even more surprised how Vettel screwed this up.

TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Apart from yet another comfortable Merc 1-2, that was a decent race.

How could anyone moan about Silverstone? It always delivers and is one of the best tracks on the calendar.

paulguitar

23,444 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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TobyTR said:
Apart from yet another comfortable Merc 1-2, that was a decent race.
The Mercs were a really big part of why that was a decent race, weren't they?




TheDeuce

21,579 posts

66 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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TobyTR said:
Apart from yet another comfortable Merc 1-2, that was a decent race.

How could anyone moan about Silverstone? It always delivers and is one of the best tracks on the calendar.
Probably because Silverstone moan about Silverstone wink

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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paulguitar said:
TobyTR said:
Apart from yet another comfortable Merc 1-2, that was a decent race.
The Mercs were a really big part of why that was a decent race, weren't they?
Big part ?

So what your saying is that these last 6 years have been very decent and entertaining because your boy Lewis got more than few easy wins by putting his Merc in mode 11 ?

I and the rest of the world rather like to see a fight between Lewis, Leclerc and Max for a WDC next season.

paulguitar

23,444 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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DeltonaS said:
So what your saying is that these last 6 years have been very decent and entertaining because your boy Lewis got more than few easy wins by putting his Merc in mode 11 ?

I and the rest of the world rather like to see a fight between Lewis, Leclerc and Max for a WDC next season.
Why are you attempting to tell me what I am saying?

What I actually said was, the race on Sunday was excellent in part because we had an exciting scrap for the lead between the two Merc drivers.

I'd also love to see Max and Charles scrapping at the pointy end, as often as possible.

Perhaps you should read what has been written, rather than making up your own version?rolleyes





Edited by paulguitar on Tuesday 16th July 01:38

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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paulguitar said:
Why are you attempting to tell me what I am saying?

What I actually said was, the race on Sunday was excellent in part because we had an exciting scrap for the lead between the two Merc drivers.

I'd also love to see Max and Charles scrapping at the pointy end, as often as possible.

Perhaps you should read what has been written, rather than making up your own version?rolleyes
Sorry, but missed the part were the fight for the lead between the two Merc drivers got really exciting.

paulguitar

23,444 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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DeltonaS said:
paulguitar said:
Why are you attempting to tell me what I am saying?

What I actually said was, the race on Sunday was excellent in part because we had an exciting scrap for the lead between the two Merc drivers.

I'd also love to see Max and Charles scrapping at the pointy end, as often as possible.

Perhaps you should read what has been written, rather than making up your own version?rolleyes
Sorry, but missed the part were the fight for the lead between the two Merc drivers got really exciting.
Seriously?









TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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paulguitar said:
TobyTR said:
Apart from yet another comfortable Merc 1-2, that was a decent race.
The Mercs were a really big part of why that was a decent race, weren't they?
Nope - it was the battles between Max/Charles/Seb and the midfield what mostly made it a decent entertaining race. Hamilton and Bottas had a nice tussle for the first stint, but after the safety car the win was another foregone conclusion. The gap between Mercedes and everyone else is still far too big and predictable.

There are people on this forum who aren't Mercedes fans btw and want competition throughout the field wink there's been dominance for 6 years now, we don't all want to see Mercedes 1-2s tongue out

Fair play to Mercedes turning Hamilton's engine up to maximum and allowing him to go for the fastest lap, that was great to see. Did they give Bottas's engine the maximum engine mode too? If they did, that's rather embarrasing for him...

Edited by TobyTR on Tuesday 16th July 04:13