Rich Energy drop Haas. No...Really. Seriously...

Rich Energy drop Haas. No...Really. Seriously...

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SpudLink

5,872 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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eliot said:
But I could st in a box and get lt listed on ebay and amazon with no barriers to entry at-all. My same turd in a box wouldn't pass the sniff test (commercially and physically) with any high street retailer.
Hmm. You’ve given me an idea for a new revenue stream. I just need to steal design an original logo, and think of a good name. Perhaps “Fumant Fumier”.

Edited by SpudLink on Friday 2nd August 19:22

Sixpackpert

4,561 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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eliot said:
Lazadude said:
but I'd call Amazon EU a "distribution lines via major retailers". I'd say Amazon EU has more throughput then it would get in any one supermarket, especially when you think about the continent. Actual customer reach is much larger than say if they put it in waitrose, (it is up market/premium only you know etc...).
But I could st in a box and get lt listed on ebay and amazon with no barriers to entry at-all. My same turd in a box wouldn't pass the sniff test (commercially and physically) with any high street retailer.
Exactly that. Having to sit at home and ordering it is rubbish compared with getting it into supermarkets and petrol stations all over the UK. By getting it on actual shelves in front of the consumer would have made it a bit more believable/credible!

skwdenyer

16,540 posts

241 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Building brand awareness ahead of actual sales isn’t a non-starter as a business plan. Most energy drinks are non-premium fillers; if you want stores to stock (and keep stocking) your product at premium price points, you have to demonstrate demand, awareness and sales support (marketing, advertising, etc).

What’s wrong with this picture is how they’ve gone about executing the strategy...

CoolHands

18,699 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Coca Cola have just started their own crap now I saw it in Sainsbury earlier. £1.29 a can! fking unbelievable

Anyway with all the cheap st for 50p, and the established premium brands at fk-knows-how-much, I don’t think it matters what you say - there’s no real chance of success for another one.

skwdenyer

16,540 posts

241 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
Coca Cola have just started their own crap now I saw it in Sainsbury earlier. £1.29 a can! fking unbelievable

Anyway with all the cheap st for 50p, and the established premium brands at fk-knows-how-much, I don’t think it matters what you say - there’s no real chance of success for another one.
I recall thinking the same when Monster arrived. They seem to have done ok...

DanielSan

18,818 posts

168 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
Coca Cola have just started their own crap now I saw it in Sainsbury earlier. £1.29 a can! fking unbelievable

Anyway with all the cheap st for 50p, and the established premium brands at fk-knows-how-much, I don’t think it matters what you say - there’s no real chance of success for another one.
I don't understand why they've done this to be honest, they own the Relentless energy drink company

CoolHands

18,699 posts

196 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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I know we all like different things but I still can’t really understand why people drink this rubbish. I mean it so obviously costs 2p to produce and sells at mega profit. But why do people drink it I will never understand, who needs more energy?? I drink a cup of tea to quench my thirst and no doubt get a caffeine hit I’m unaware of, but to drink a can of something designed to pep you up is a bit weird I think.

Kizmiaz

230 posts

89 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
I know we all like different things but I still can’t really understand why people drink this rubbish. I mean it so obviously costs 2p to produce and sells at mega profit. But why do people drink it I will never understand, who needs more energy?? I drink a cup of tea to quench my thirst and no doubt get a caffeine hit I’m unaware of, but to drink a can of something designed to pep you up is a bit weird I think.
Good point but vodka tea tastes grim.

b0rk

2,310 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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DanielSan said:
I don't understand why they've done this to be honest, they own the Relentless energy drink company
Relentless is a monster brand and has been since coke sold it 2015 in return for all of Monster's non energy drink brands. Coke did get a 16% ownership stake in Monster as part of arrangement and the rights to be the anchor bottler for Monster...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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DanielSan said:
I don't understand why they've done this to be honest, they own the Relentless energy drink company
They are 250ml cans so directly compete with RB. The bigger energy cans are slightly aimed at a different portion of the market.

They have added vit b and being no calories i guess aiming for more feminine market, as energy drinks have a more macho image. The problem is they could just end up diluting sales as people have strong associations with the Coke brand.



Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
I know we all like different things but I still can’t really understand why people drink this rubbish
This. I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever drunk a red bull without tequila or vodka in it. Sometimes both.


soad

32,914 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
I know we all like different things but I still can’t really understand why people drink this rubbish. I mean it so obviously costs 2p to produce and sells at mega profit. But why do people drink it I will never understand, who needs more energy?? I drink a cup of tea to quench my thirst and no doubt get a caffeine hit I’m unaware of, but to drink a can of something designed to pep you up is a bit weird I think.
Early starts/night shifts/weekends work. Lack of sleep, long hours - sometimes you need all the helping hand there exists. Especially when the instant coffee (from canteen) tastes fking horrible.
Mainly for those with an active hands on physical roles etc.

Lazadude

1,732 posts

162 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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soad said:
Early starts/night shifts/weekends work. Lack of sleep, long hours - sometimes you need all the helping hand there exists. Especially when the instant coffee (from canteen) tastes fking horrible.
this, but i do IT shifts... Sometimes you need a pick me up at 5am and instant coffee is vile.

GB4 JEV FFS

876 posts

68 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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Kizmiaz said:
CoolHands said:
I know we all like different things but I still can’t really understand why people drink this rubbish. I mean it so obviously costs 2p to produce and sells at mega profit. But why do people drink it I will never understand, who needs more energy?? I drink a cup of tea to quench my thirst and no doubt get a caffeine hit I’m unaware of, but to drink a can of something designed to pep you up is a bit weird I think.
Good point but vodka tea tastes grim.
Have you tried coke (as in cocaine)? No need for artificial taste improvers there.

SpudLink

5,872 posts

193 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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GB4 JEV FFS said:
Have you tried coke (as in cocaine)? No need for artificial taste improvers there.
Mix it with Rich Energy and you could find yourself on social media in the early hours telling everyone that your product is better than Red Bull and have 90 million unfilled cans of the stuff.

soad

32,914 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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SpudLink said:
Mix it with Rich Energy and you could find yourself on social media in the early hours telling everyone that your product is better than Red Bull and have 90 million unfilled cans of the stuff.
hehe

Petrus1983

8,774 posts

163 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Guess who’s back laugh


But it’s ok - they’ve done a huge distribution deal in South America!

eliot

11,445 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
Guess who’s back laugh
Looks more like a charity appeal for the local hobo

skwdenyer

16,540 posts

241 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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So I’ll confess I’m confused. The “new” RE company was Storey, who was dead set on cutting ties with Haas. Yet the “new” RE is tweeting support for Haas.

Does that mean all the parties have kissed and made up?

Auntieroll

543 posts

185 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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[quote=skwdenyer]So I’ll confess I’m confused. The “new” RE company was Storey, who was dead set on cutting ties with Haas. Yet the “new” RE is tweeting support for Haas/quote]

Perhaps they have the same publicity advisers as Trump !😁