Official Belgium GP thread 2019

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REALIST123 said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Deesee said:

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https://streamable.com/g86f9

Nearly got it back... ouchie!

Strange crash. Left rear puncture?

Really? It seemed pretty much like he just ran too high on the kerb. As Herbert said, when you do that there, the result is pretty much inevitable.

Rare driver error, too much curb..

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ELUSIVEJIM said:

Race pace will be the big factor. Spa doesn't have the same slow sections which have been an issue to the Ferrari car.

But I just can't imagine the Mercedes or Red Bull not being better in race trim.

Ferrari are a second off Red Bull and Merc race pace, if they get in front they have to get away.. before the others trigger an undercut.

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FourWheelDrift said:

Despite the Ferrari pace in sector 1 didn't it show Hamilton as fastest through the speed trap?

Here’s the sector speed traps, the speed trap is just after eau rouge/radilllon, which also had the red cars faster..

Sectors



Speed trap

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Nasty crash, let’s not put up any links please until we know everything ok?!

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Here’s the grid...

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Race Sets..

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With the cooling conditions the delta on the hard may go further out, making it pretty functionless.

Prime tyre is the medium, although you may see a 2 stopper for an outside chance. Soft soft medium.

Although the VSC/Safety Car probability is high, expect track position to be high on the agenda, and keeping the following cars outside of the VSC window, the new higher wings will create overtaking opportunities. I think fortune will favour the brave with the choice in pitstops..

Ferrari could only manage 10 laps on the soft before losing 3 seconds a lap.. they will need to gain 2+ seconds a lap to get the VSC cushion.

Edited by Deesee on Sunday 1st September 10:46

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Welshbeef said:

Deesee said:

Race Sets..

Remember years ago the only info you had was starting positions, how times have changed.

Yep, pretty sure you can work out the laps done on the used ones too..

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New PU parts for (in addition) for Sainz & Gio, they go further back.

I can only describe a frankencar for RK, as they have literally cobbled together used different spec parts and different spec wings, ie totally different MGU to Spec engine.. after the fire yesterday, importantly allowed to drive today..

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& the tributes begin







https://twitter.com/RenaultF1Team/status/116808863...

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With this commitment..,

https://streamable.com/uijsv

He might keep the seat... top driving..

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bobbo89 said:

Deesee said:

With this commitment..,

https://streamable.com/uijsv

He might keep the seat... top driving..

Albon really not fking about there!

Here’s the on board of the DRS game, plus grass overtake!

https://streamable.com/bk2z1

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ELUSIVEJIM said:

g4ry13 said:

At that speed and a little bit of grip loss that would have ended very badly.

I think the stewards did call both Perez and Albon after the race.

But that was a bit naughty by Perez.

Good hard racing, no impacts..no causing a collision..

Here’s the steward report..

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swisstoni said:

I think the reason this corner is news all of a sudden is Verstappen.
If someone else had messed up, it would have been their fault and nobody would be calling for changes.

Let’s be fair there’s been some huge smashes over the yrs, last yr Alonso and CLC (via Hulk), and the saviour ‘halo’ (as discussed last yr in detail).

No need to change anything IMO.

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Max Verstappen 3 yr challenge

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rhoX3a7

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HighwayStar said:

kiseca said:

HighwayStar said:

kiseca said:

eccles said:

kiseca said:

I'm just saying that simply expecting the drivers to be more careful there is never going to happen.

But this is exactly what experience brings, knowing where to push and knowing where to be cautious. Very rarely is the race won on the first corner, especially against a slower car.

I agree, but it isn't the only factor. Max may well not make that same mistake again, but someone else definitely will, and it will happen more often at that corner than at others.

Max's experience has been that he's gone for that gap dozens of times in different corners and it's earned him a place or at least not ended his race. This time, he simply couldn't turn any tighter and it put him out of the race. In most other cases, when the door was closing, he had somewhere to go. A bit more room to move into, to give him some more braking time. Here it was bounce off Kimi, or hit a wall.

But yes, he has speed already, once experience has taught him enough ways to avoid shunting himself out of contention, he's going to be the standout driver of his generation, I think.

The thing is... he's had the same accident at that corner before... 2016? He knew the possible outcome. He gambled. He lost.

Has he? OK in that case maybe he won't respond as quickly to experience as I was expecting

I already knew about it but from Deesee's post 6 or so posts back. Check it out. A real case of deja vu.

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Max Verstappen 3 yr challenge

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rhoX3a7

Edited by HighwayStar on Wednesday 4th September 11:42

Yeh, fancy Kimi not getting out of the way twice....

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HighwayStar said:

With that corner, it's actually at the corner there isn't anywhere that appears to be out the way when it's starts going wrong. If they are already through and clear it's fine. Tt's cars follow the drivers caught up in the crash. They can get tagged anywhere across the track. Cars bouncing off cars in all directions. I wonder what Max did in the years between the 2 incidents to make the corner. I'm at work so can look into that at the moment.

Similar starting position p5/p7 gave loads of space, and did not dive in on the curb...