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sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

82 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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TheDeuce said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Bored. Just let it go. America doesn't need two F1 races, especially one in Miami.

If you're going to have another F1 race in America, put it somewhere where it would make a difference like Detroit.
Imagine... And there is still so much worthless space around the modern city that could be re-purposed in to a dedicated circuit.

There are certain political reasons for Miami though, and the money is (supposedly) there, it's glamorous (kinda..) so I guess it's an easy, if uninspiring choice.

If it ever happens, which it may very well not do.
I've never been to Miami, but I know people who have been and they all say it's a hole.

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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I hate these US city centre type circuits. They are and always were pretty dull and impersonal. Detroit, Phoenix, Ceaser's Palace, Long Beach - all very poor.

There are some cracking road circuits in the US but if they ever hosted an F1 race, they'd probably be ruined. I like the current Austin circuit though - one of the best at the moment.

thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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A race around a carpark in a the middle of a residential area miles from any other point of interest. Well done F1.

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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The Americans bought the sport.. this was inevitable and the second US GP was always going to be a commercial decision over and above a quality circuit. Personally I wish they'd return to Vegas and do it properly but it wasn't to be...

Think of it this way: it'll still be better than Paul Ricard..

aston80

264 posts

42 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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thegreenhell said:
A race around a carpark in a the middle of a residential area miles from any other point of interest. Well done F1.
That was exactly my thought

At least the sea front proposal would have had some decent scenery.

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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It’s not a bad part of town for it - easy access from everywhere. I’m looking forward to be able to take a day trip to watch it!

Shame there’s not any elevation change but that was never going to be a thing in Miami!

Edited by The Moose on Sunday 18th April 22:38

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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TheDeuce said:
Think of it this way: it'll still be better than Paul Ricard..
I can't watch the race at Paul Ricard - it gives me a migraine.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Stefano D seemed to indicate they will be racing at the hard rock cafe.



carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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There was a Ken Block style F1 on the beach video at the end of the Peter Windsor Imola race report video.

TheDeuce

21,734 posts

67 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Fundoreen said:
Stefano D seemed to indicate they will be racing at the hard rock cafe.
It's the hard rock (sponsors of the) stadium they're racing around. Essentially the stadiums car park pretty much..


thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Look on Google - they've already got the track set up!

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.9574953,-80.235327...


The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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TheDeuce said:
Fundoreen said:
Stefano D seemed to indicate they will be racing at the hard rock cafe.
It's the hard rock (sponsors of the) stadium they're racing around. Essentially the stadiums car park pretty much..
I believe the Seminoles own the Hard Rock brand as well as the stadium (and many many other things).

realjv

1,114 posts

167 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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The original seafront proposal was never going to happen as planned. Closing the bridge into the Port of Miami for 3 days to hold a race plus all the disruption caused by setup/teardown made it a non-starter.

By sticking to stadium property at least this version stands a chance of happening not just as a one off but for a good number of years. Miami Gardens isn't glamorous like Miami Beach but it's close enough that you can still use Miami Beach to put up and entertain your big money guests. Judging by Google Maps you can 'ferry' them back and forth via luxury speedboat.

An outdoor event (in a car park with no shade!) in Miami in June, that's going to be a tough ticket to sell to locals. There is a reason why the Marlins have a retractable roof on their stadium. So it will be down to the out of towners to buy the tickets.

Now if you are going to spend all the time and money building this temporary circuit doesn't it make sense to use it for more than one race? Maybe Indycar should get on the phone.



Doink

1,652 posts

148 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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One of Jimmy Broadbents subscribers has designed the track on Asseto Corsa, I don't know it doesn't seem too bad, I've seen worse

https://youtu.be/-Wud6ANHQo0

entropy

5,449 posts

204 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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realjv said:
An outdoor event (in a car park with no shade!) in Miami in June, that's going to be a tough ticket to sell to locals. There is a reason why the Marlins have a retractable roof on their stadium. So it will be down to the out of towners to buy the tickets.
Good point. Florida is a good market for road racing. Didn't know it was June race. Would it be well into hurricane season?

thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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realjv said:
Miami Gardens isn't glamorous like Miami Beach but it's close enough that you can still use Miami Beach to put up and entertain your big money guests. Judging by Google Maps you can 'ferry' them back and forth via luxury speedboat.
It's not exactly Venice. The waterway behind the stadium doesn't appear to be navigable. I think it's just a drainage canal. The only speedboats getting there will be pulled on trailers behind trucks.

thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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entropy said:
realjv said:
An outdoor event (in a car park with no shade!) in Miami in June, that's going to be a tough ticket to sell to locals. There is a reason why the Marlins have a retractable roof on their stadium. So it will be down to the out of towners to buy the tickets.
Good point. Florida is a good market for road racing. Didn't know it was June race. Would it be well into hurricane season?
They haven't given a date for it yet, but I think they are going to try to go back to back with Montreal.

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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realjv said:
An outdoor event (in a car park with no shade!) in Miami in June, that's going to be a tough ticket to sell to locals. There is a reason why the Marlins have a retractable roof on their stadium. So it will be down to the out of towners to buy the tickets.
You'd be surprised at what us "locals" do in the summer here!

The Marlins roof is retractable for the summer rains as much as the heat!

James1912

2 posts

162 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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I don't mind F1 going to new areas but the race tracks are so dull when in an urban location. The fencing is all the same and they just lack feeling.

Hopefully it has been designed for overtaking but I doubt it.