Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
HustleRussell said:
They did have a tub then, as well as nosecones as already discussed
Indeed, fingers crossed for this GP and next and they've made it through the season - not exactly in style perhaps.. but I think just seeing this season out with what they started with, and their stretched resources, has been a big challenge for them.Well done Williams. It was good to see RK's car rebuilt and back on track.
Deesee said:
Seb at the press conference
Vettel about Max/Red Bull: "It was a bit of surprise to see, not to see them this quick but to see them that quick on the straights. A little bit suspicious."
https://t.co/yGJTqdQltl
Said with a wry smile, added to LH chipping in with ‘very’ too makes you wonder what the real thoughts are. Vettel about Max/Red Bull: "It was a bit of surprise to see, not to see them this quick but to see them that quick on the straights. A little bit suspicious."
https://t.co/yGJTqdQltl
Race Sets
Pirelli strat guide
No real sign of Deg on Friday on the soft, and marginal delta, so you can go longer in the pit window on to the meduim, rather than the hard for the second stint.
Merc have really made these hard tyres work on an alternative race winning strategy when behind this season, Hamilton’s tyre management in the first stint may put him into play in the closing stages.
Red Bull have the new set of softs to look for a two stopper, so likely they will undercut.
Sebs my favourite to get the win here, front row start, and prime tyre strategy + tyre options, CLC needs a clean first lap to take advantage of the Ferrari pace, and may be a thorn in the side (starting on mediums) when the front runners come in to change off the softs.
Pirelli strat guide
No real sign of Deg on Friday on the soft, and marginal delta, so you can go longer in the pit window on to the meduim, rather than the hard for the second stint.
Merc have really made these hard tyres work on an alternative race winning strategy when behind this season, Hamilton’s tyre management in the first stint may put him into play in the closing stages.
Red Bull have the new set of softs to look for a two stopper, so likely they will undercut.
Sebs my favourite to get the win here, front row start, and prime tyre strategy + tyre options, CLC needs a clean first lap to take advantage of the Ferrari pace, and may be a thorn in the side (starting on mediums) when the front runners come in to change off the softs.
That is how formula 1 should be shown on TV. No comments, just drivers radios and onscreen positions (might be a bit boring thought):
https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
E34-3.2 said:
That is how formula 1 should be shown on TV. No comments, just drivers radios and onscreen positions (might be a bit boring thought):
https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
Got something in common with most F1 coverage though. It's only available in certain countries...https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
Deesee said:
Race Sets
Pirelli strat guide
No real sign of Deg on Friday on the soft, and marginal delta, so you can go longer in the pit window on to the meduim, rather than the hard for the second stint.
Merc have really made these hard tyres work on an alternative race winning strategy when behind this season, Hamilton’s tyre management in the first stint may put him into play in the closing stages.
Red Bull have the new set of softs to look for a two stopper, so likely they will undercut.
Sebs my favourite to get the win here, front row start, and prime tyre strategy + tyre options, CLC needs a clean first lap to take advantage of the Ferrari pace, and may be a thorn in the side (starting on mediums) when the front runners come in to change off the softs.
Sky seem to be supporting a Verstappen win, almost as a foregone conclusion. Nothing is ever set in stone with him, I know, but the odds do seem to favour him. A lot will depend whether he can put some distance between him and #2 on the road, but he seems to have the car to do it. That Ferrari is powerful though. It seems to be set up to make the most of the long drag to the start/finish straight, ignoring the twisty bits. I can see some exciting overtakes once pit stops come into play.Pirelli strat guide
No real sign of Deg on Friday on the soft, and marginal delta, so you can go longer in the pit window on to the meduim, rather than the hard for the second stint.
Merc have really made these hard tyres work on an alternative race winning strategy when behind this season, Hamilton’s tyre management in the first stint may put him into play in the closing stages.
Red Bull have the new set of softs to look for a two stopper, so likely they will undercut.
Sebs my favourite to get the win here, front row start, and prime tyre strategy + tyre options, CLC needs a clean first lap to take advantage of the Ferrari pace, and may be a thorn in the side (starting on mediums) when the front runners come in to change off the softs.
E34-3.2 said:
That is how formula 1 should be shown on TV. No comments, just drivers radios and onscreen positions (might be a bit boring thought):
https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
Available now on sky press the red button.https://youtu.be/4wq0Isy0MJc
F1 tv has even more options for this.
Derek Smith said:
Sky seem to be supporting a Verstappen win, almost as a foregone conclusion. Nothing is ever set in stone with him, I know, but the odds do seem to favour him. A lot will depend whether he can put some distance between him and #2 on the road, but he seems to have the car to do it. That Ferrari is powerful though. It seems to be set up to make the most of the long drag to the start/finish straight, ignoring the twisty bits. I can see some exciting overtakes once pit stops come into play.
Sky certainly were talking up Max yesterday, (don’t think he’s won yet from pole)? Makes a change from them talking about a certain Monégasque!We need a greater spread of winners/podiums especially with the way points are allocated now, if you look at pole stats the championship should be closer, if you replaced Hamilton at the beginning of the season with another Bottas then perhaps it would be closer on race results, he’s been head and shoulders above everyone this season.
Anyway something always happens in this race, it will show how max has come on if he can finish this one P1, 4/5 wins in the hybrid era here are from pole... needs to get it done
On board Max's pole lap.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B48O5jcJqXp/
I'm sure it's been covered before, but what is the noise on over run and occasionally on exit. Sounds like it's cutting cylinders, but on acceleration wouldn't that be some from of TC which I thought was banned?
Nice lap though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B48O5jcJqXp/
I'm sure it's been covered before, but what is the noise on over run and occasionally on exit. Sounds like it's cutting cylinders, but on acceleration wouldn't that be some from of TC which I thought was banned?
Nice lap though.
ben5575 said:
On board Max's pole lap.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B48O5jcJqXp/
I'm sure it's been covered before, but what is the noise on over run and occasionally on exit. Sounds like it's cutting cylinders, but on acceleration wouldn't that be some from of TC which I thought was banned?
Nice lap though.
Is it just me or does that sound awesome https://www.instagram.com/p/B48O5jcJqXp/
I'm sure it's been covered before, but what is the noise on over run and occasionally on exit. Sounds like it's cutting cylinders, but on acceleration wouldn't that be some from of TC which I thought was banned?
Nice lap though.
All the teams are using auto-ignition technology at times which is why they sound a bit 2-stroke at times
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.one-yea...
Lol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Lol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Teddy Lop said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.one-yea...
Lol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Oh, dear. Did you really take that comment even remotely seriously. Lol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Teddy Lop said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.one-yea...
Lol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Max has just gone up in my estimations, good sense of humourLol, last years coming together with Ocon was his dads fault now.
Anything but blame yourself huh?
Deesee said:
Sky certainly were talking up Max yesterday, (don’t think he’s won yet from pole)? Makes a change from them talking about a certain Monégasque!
We need a greater spread of winners/podiums especially with the way points are allocated now, if you look at pole stats the championship should be closer, if you replaced Hamilton at the beginning of the season with another Bottas then perhaps it would be closer on race results, he’s been head and shoulders above everyone this season.
Anyway something always happens in this race, it will show how max has come on if he can finish this one P1, 4/5 wins in the hybrid era here are from pole... needs to get it done
He needs to and should be able to get it done. However... Max and Brazil are both famous for things not going entirely to plan We need a greater spread of winners/podiums especially with the way points are allocated now, if you look at pole stats the championship should be closer, if you replaced Hamilton at the beginning of the season with another Bottas then perhaps it would be closer on race results, he’s been head and shoulders above everyone this season.
Anyway something always happens in this race, it will show how max has come on if he can finish this one P1, 4/5 wins in the hybrid era here are from pole... needs to get it done
If he gets off the line well then he doesn't have to worry about losing his cool at the first corner at least. But at some point, barring any weirdness, Mercedes are virtually guaranteed to be pressuring him for position. If he can maintain his cool, and his tyres as well as the Mercedes attack force then he should be ok. Mercedes pace isnt so much greater that they can pass without a battle.
So that's the big question, can he be cool enough to hold them off for potentially most of the race? Lewis has accomplished such drives countless times before, so this could be a real test of how good max is when it comes to being a future WDC potential.
As for Ferrari.. they need some luck here I think. And strategists that are on the ball enough to make the most of any luck that comes their way.
ked then. 
Deesee said:
Track temps will hit 50c, that’s 19c higher than Q3.
Expect deg and a change to a two stopper.
So a (comparative) long-Soft - Hard for Valteri and Lewis’s easy 1-2 then?Expect deg and a change to a two stopper.
I just don’t see this going Max’s way - but will be pleased for Honda, if it does. The lap time differences for the top-6 are minuscule. Tyre use/strategy will win this race.
rdjohn said:
Deesee said:
Track temps will hit 50c, that’s 19c higher than Q3.
Expect deg and a change to a two stopper.
So a (comparative) long-Soft - Hard for Valteri and Lewis’s easy 1-2 then?Expect deg and a change to a two stopper.
I just don’t see this going Max’s way - but will be pleased for Honda, if it does. The lap time differences for the top-6 are minuscule. Tyre use/strategy will win this race.
Lewis will run Soft past the window then has a new medium (and a Hard btw, expect Valtteri to early stop to hard so they’ve got data on the hard).
1/2 is on the cards with the track temps..
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Sky certainly were talking up Max yesterday, (don’t think he’s won yet from pole)? Makes a change from them talking about a certain Monégasque!
We need a greater spread of winners/podiums especially with the way points are allocated now, if you look at pole stats the championship should be closer, if you replaced Hamilton at the beginning of the season with another Bottas then perhaps it would be closer on race results, he’s been head and shoulders above everyone this season.
Anyway something always happens in this race, it will show how max has come on if he can finish this one P1, 4/5 wins in the hybrid era here are from pole... needs to get it done
He needs to and should be able to get it done. However... Max and Brazil are both famous for things not going entirely to plan We need a greater spread of winners/podiums especially with the way points are allocated now, if you look at pole stats the championship should be closer, if you replaced Hamilton at the beginning of the season with another Bottas then perhaps it would be closer on race results, he’s been head and shoulders above everyone this season.
Anyway something always happens in this race, it will show how max has come on if he can finish this one P1, 4/5 wins in the hybrid era here are from pole... needs to get it done
If he gets off the line well then he doesn't have to worry about losing his cool at the first corner at least. But at some point, barring any weirdness, Mercedes are virtually guaranteed to be pressuring him for position. If he can maintain his cool, and his tyres as well as the Mercedes attack force then he should be ok. Mercedes pace isnt so much greater that they can pass without a battle.
So that's the big question, can he be cool enough to hold them off for potentially most of the race? Lewis has accomplished such drives countless times before, so this could be a real test of how good max is when it comes to being a future WDC potential.
As for Ferrari.. they need some luck here I think. And strategists that are on the ball enough to make the most of any luck that comes their way.
Ferrari, Seb should win under the existing data, (although with the change in track conditions Merc 1/2).
Deesee said:
Max has to get it done here (and he won’t)..
Ferrari, Seb should win under the existing data, (although with the change in track conditions Merc 1/2).
Seb? The existing data shows Ferrari having a 4 tenth delta from Mercedes race pace. Why do you think Ferrari would have ever had much of a chance?Ferrari, Seb should win under the existing data, (although with the change in track conditions Merc 1/2).
As for Max, tend to agree. I would LOVE to see him really focus, succeed and then get the win as a reward. I think he's seen how being reckless can pull his points down but he needs more of the winning feeling too. I think all drivers need to get a little used to winning to have the confidence to let certain battles go, and appreciate the rewards that come from cool headed drive. In other words, a win here, and probably third in the championship to bolster it, could help him evolve a little further.
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