Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Mark-C said:
BBC Feed: Ricciardo says the track is drying and the inters are no good anymore. Back to the pits for him.

Some hope yet (and this meeting is as dull as expected) ...
I have to be honest, my attention keeps wandering away from the screen smile

FP2 should be far better, they'll be running quali sims on a (probably) dry track, without the benefit of any relevant FP1 dry practice.

TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Weird, both Red Bulls off within moments of each other.

Albon definitely causing the biggest upset for the mechanics.. No lunch break for them.

SturdyHSV

6,720 posts

115 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
Weird, both Red Bulls off within moments of each other.

Albon definitely causing the biggest upset for the mechanics.. No lunch break for them.
Albon has commented that it's quite an oversteery car, certainly in contrast to the relatively understeery STR (which suits Pierre's driving style better apparently), and he has said in a few (post crash hehe) interviews that the car breaks away very quickly and once it's gone there's not a lot to be done about it.

Max's spin did look particularly sudden, as the car looked fairly stable in the left hand part of the corner.

HustleRussell

17,140 posts

108 months

Friday 15th November
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That might be a new tub and gearbox for Robert so he’ll be starting at the back

TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Well... That's Williams spare parts cupboard fully depleted once again.


TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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HustleRussell said:
That might be a new tub and gearbox for Robert so he’ll be starting at the back
If he's starting at all. They do have at least one (and probably only one) spare front wing, not sure about the tub situation these days - I know that for months they had just the two on the cars along with one used one that became a spare, can't recall if that one was used before or as a result of that manhole cover wiping GR out at Baku.


TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Surprised no one else commenting - that was a pretty good FP2 smile

Derek Smith

35,055 posts

196 months

Friday 15th November
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I hope the TV producer concentrates on the midfield battles. Austin was exciting, even without the chase down in the final few laps at the front. There were some brilliant fights with exciting overtakes.

Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
Surprised no one else commenting - that was a pretty good FP2 smile
Standard Damp FP2 at the front, Fezzas on glory runs, Merc setting the (race) pace on the Primes, one of the red bulls in the wall.. (balance problems) ahem..

Midfield.. all hiding pace so Hass somehow look quick.

At the back, GR did not even have to beat KR today, good job all the spare parts from Bahrain turned up.

TheDeuce

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14 months

Friday 15th November
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Deesee said:
At the back, GR did not even have to beat KR today, good job all the spare parts from Bahrain turned up.
I've lost track of the Williams spare parts debacle. What do you mean spare parts from Bahrain? What is the latest on their spare parts? I'm assuming really not good as they pulled RK in previously to avoid damage.. so much for that!

It's almost as if a team needs to be prepared for the odd shunt if they're serious about fielding a pair of cars for an entire season!?

Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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Here’s a quick update on the GPS (vs Ferrari)

Red Bull are losing 0.70 on the straights.

Merc are losing 0.90....




Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Midfield.. all hiding pace so Hass somehow look quick.

At the back, GR did not even have to beat KR today, good job all the spare parts from Bahrain turned up.
I've lost track of the Williams spare parts debacle. What do you mean spare parts from Bahrain? What is the latest on their spare parts? I'm assuming really not good as they pulled RK in previously to avoid damage.. so much for that!

It's almost as if a team needs to be prepared for the odd shunt if they're serious about fielding a pair of cars for an entire season!?
Private joke (Bahrain! although might have well been Melbourne) although Williams have brought lots of parts here (lots of front wings)...apparently lots more than the last few races, might see the drivers pushing as such..

TheDeuce

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14 months

Friday 15th November
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Deesee said:
Private joke (Bahrain! although might have well been Melbourne) although Williams have brought lots of parts here (lots of front wings)...apparently lots more than the last few races, might see the drivers pushing as such..
I mean... bringing two front wings would be twice as many as normal biggrin

The way RK's car gave up traction under a brief over rotation of the rear wheel was a bit shocking tbh. Makes you wonder how much effort goes in to keeping it on the track, let alone trying to do anything ambitious with it.

Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Private joke (Bahrain! although might have well been Melbourne) although Williams have brought lots of parts here (lots of front wings)...apparently lots more than the last few races, might see the drivers pushing as such..
I mean... bringing two front wings would be twice as many as normal biggrin

The way RK's car gave up traction under a brief over rotation of the rear wheel was a bit shocking tbh. Makes you wonder how much effort goes in to keeping it on the track, let alone trying to do anything ambitious with it.
Hence why wink we may see GR named driver of the year.. RK has not done a lot wrong this year.

Oh and think they had 3 (yes 3) front wings each this weekend! So I assume the sponsors finally paid up at some point in September/October.

Jasandjules

63,387 posts

177 months

Friday 15th November
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Merc race pace seems strong again.


Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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That was a delicate drop in The Moose, chapeau..x !

TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Deesee said:
Hence why wink we may see GR named driver of the year.. RK has not done a lot wrong this year.

Oh and think they had 3 (yes 3) front wings each this weekend! So I assume the sponsors finally paid up at some point in September/October.
3 each!? Jeez, that's a huge change. Of course we don't know yet if he managed to damage the tub - although I doubt it tbh.

So they finally have wings, now they may be allowed to 'race', except the car shows us that it's not willing to race - it's willing to crash. One day RK will reflect on his hard fought for return season with Williams and think: "What the f**k was that all about".


Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
One day RK will reflect on his hard fought for return season with Williams and think: "What the f**k was that all about".
Any reflections should be made on his decisions should be when driving for ‘the’ up and coming works team, then signing ‘the’ contract the ‘the’ F1 team, to decide to go Rallying.. for fun..

Deesee

3,252 posts

31 months

Friday 15th November
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Jasandjules said:
Merc race pace seems strong again.
Massive Race Pace, and giving up a second on the straights..

TheDeuce

3,738 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Deesee said:
Any reflections should be made on his decisions should be when driving for ‘the’ up and coming works team, then signing ‘the’ contract the ‘the’ F1 team, to decide to go Rallying.. for fun..
The problem is, that if a chap is minded to say no to rallying in that situation because of the extra risk, then they would also be minded to not race in the first place. It gets tricky when we talk about racing drivers not making sensible and safe decisions. The difference between taking a risk and losing out and looking like you have bad judgement is but a hairs breadth from making the same decision, it paying off and appearing the hero.

In any case, apparently his car broke traction because the HAAS running ahead of him pulled some water on to the track, according to RK. I'm not so sure... Looked to me like a car on a cold tyre with inadequate down force being mildly upset on a fresh track. The water may have been present but I doubt it's the root cause - surely cars were pulling water from the kerbs all round the track the entire session, it wasn't generally an issue.