Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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rallycross

10,444 posts

185 months

Saturday 16th November
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TheDeuce said:
The problem is, that if a chap is minded to say no to rallying in that situation because of the extra risk, then they would also be minded to not race in the first place. It gets tricky when we talk about racing drivers not making sensible and safe decisions. The difference between taking a risk and losing out and looking like you have bad judgement is but a hairs breadth from making the same decision, it paying off and appearing the hero.

In any case, apparently his car broke traction because the HAAS running ahead of him pulled some water on to the track, according to RK. I'm not so sure... Looked to me like a car on a cold tyre with inadequate down force being mildly upset on a fresh track. The water may have been present but I doubt it's the root cause - surely cars were pulling water from the kerbs all round the track the entire session, it wasn't generally an issue.
So you think you know more than a race winning F1driver ?
Unbelievable nonsense, well done.

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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rallycross said:
So you think you know more than a race winning F1driver ?
Unbelievable nonsense, well done.
Your point is what exactly? That racing drivers never ever come up with excuses or flatter their own errors? In this case I don't even think it was a driving error, I don't think it was water either - although if there was water that obviously can't have helped.

I think the Williams is unstable and hugely lacking in downforce. The sort of car that doesn't have more accidents solely because the entire time it's being driven the driver is half expecting it to let go and is always being vigilant.

None of what I have said suggests I know better than an F1 driver. I'm just highly dubious of real cause of the incident - and a racing driver named Kubica has previously said that he's driving most of the time to contain, not control the cars behaviour.

Also, calm down - why are you so often on the attack?

Deesee

3,250 posts

31 months

Saturday 16th November
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Quali pace



Race pace


Mr_Thyroid

1,776 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th November
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Racing Point were carrying a funny looking bulbous thing on the camera mount next to the roll hoop. Anyone know what it was?

Mr_Thyroid

1,776 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th November
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Racing Point were carrying a funny looking bulbous thing on the camera mount next to the roll hoop. Anyone know what it was?
You can see it on Perez's car here:

https://youtu.be/YJ8csYvI7Yw?t=124

Mark-C

3,153 posts

153 months

Saturday 16th November
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
Racing Point were carrying a funny looking bulbous thing on the camera mount next to the roll hoop. Anyone know what it was?
You can see it on Perez's car here:

https://youtu.be/YJ8csYvI7Yw?t=124
Trialling something for Liberty for next year maybe?

ajprice

16,721 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th November
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Yesterday's driver press conference about to go live, Danny Ric does what Danny Ric does hehe

https://twitter.com/motorsport_geek/status/1195469...

Deesee

3,250 posts

31 months

Saturday 16th November
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Mr_Thyroid said:
You can see it on Perez's car here:

https://youtu.be/YJ8csYvI7Yw?t=124
It’s a thermal camera, it will monitor car temps and air flow (cooling).

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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ajprice said:
Yesterday's driver press conference about to go live, Danny Ric does what Danny Ric does hehe

https://twitter.com/motorsport_geek/status/1195469...
That guy... biggrin

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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Is it just me or is kubica getting a lot of screen time out on track? As if the director is fingers crossed for a repeat of yesterday..?

Graveworm

2,782 posts

19 months

Saturday 16th November
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I wasn't expecting that lap from Lewis, where did that come from.

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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Graveworm said:
I wasn't expecting that lap from Lewis, where did that come from.
And now max right up there with him.


Mark-C

3,153 posts

153 months

Saturday 16th November
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TheDeuce said:
Graveworm said:
I wasn't expecting that lap from Lewis, where did that come from.
And now max right up there with him.
Looks very close at the top - should be a great Qualy session ... assuming Lewis' "big drop in power" at the end isn't a real worry

Graveworm

2,782 posts

19 months

Saturday 16th November
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Mark-C said:
Looks very close at the top - should be a great Qualy session ... assuming Lewis' "big drop in power" at the end isn't a real worry
Conspiracy theorists will be looking at the drop for Ferrari once they put the race engine in today.

Exige77

4,035 posts

139 months

Saturday 16th November
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Graveworm said:
Mark-C said:
Looks very close at the top - should be a great Qualy session ... assuming Lewis' "big drop in power" at the end isn't a real worry
Conspiracy theorists will be looking at the drop for Ferrari once they put the race engine in today.
You mean when they put their race coolant and oil in ? smile

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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Any predictions for who will bend their car first in this session?

We have three top drivers all of whom could secure 3rd in the championship, they're gonna really want a good quali result..

E34-3.2

980 posts

27 months

Saturday 16th November
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TheDeuce said:
Any predictions for who will bend their car first in this session?

We have three top drivers all of whom could secure 3rd in the championship, they're gonna really want a good quali result..
Leclerc has a 10 places grid penalty. So he is out of a good quali results. For sure he will want to show how good he is but better play tactical with the tyres if there is a possibility.

TheDeuce

3,736 posts

14 months

Saturday 16th November
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E34-3.2 said:
Leclerc has a 10 places grid penalty. So he is out of a good quali results. For sure he will want to show how good he is but better play tactical with the tyres if there is a possibility.
That's true. A big question I have is whether he'll give seb a tow, or just run his own session and, as you say, show what he can do.

Pretty sure the Red Bull is capable of taking Ferrari here in any case.

LaurasOtherHalf

15,909 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th November
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Anyone watching?

Deesee

3,250 posts

31 months

Saturday 16th November
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Anyone watching?
Oh yes..

Was good to see sky address the Ferrari power issue with Binotto & the FIa