Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Zoobeef said:
rallycross said:
He got a penalty as it’s not an overtaking spot - only an over take spot for lappped or hobbled cars.
In reference to this post.Keep up at the back.
That doesn't make it a no overtaking spot.
HTP99 said:
I loved Mattia Binotto's dead pan expression when Vettel and LeClerc crashed into each other, he didn't fly off the handle, slam his fist down or chuck his headphones at the screens, it was an almost emotionless expression which I think said much more than if he had lost it, it was just a look of dispair and disbelief.
Vettel for f
ks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it.
He definitely knew he'd said the dumb thing on the radio. I think at this stage he's annoyed at his own tendancy to initially deny the obvious and then have to deal with that, on top of the original error too.Vettel for f
ks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it. He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
TheDeuce said:
HTP99 said:
I loved Mattia Binotto's dead pan expression when Vettel and LeClerc crashed into each other, he didn't fly off the handle, slam his fist down or chuck his headphones at the screens, it was an almost emotionless expression which I think said much more than if he had lost it, it was just a look of dispair and disbelief.
Vettel for fks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it.
He definitely knew he'd said the dumb thing on the radio. I think at this stage he's annoyed at his own tendancy to initially deny the obvious and then have to deal with that, on top of the original error too.Vettel for f
ks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it. He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
TheDeuce said:
He definitely knew he'd said the dumb thing on the radio. I think at this stage he's annoyed at his own tendancy to initially deny the obvious and then have to deal with that, on top of the original error too.
He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
Just like Turkey 2010. Moving over once he can't see the car at the side of him but the rest of his car isn't clearly past. It's like he doesn't know how long the car is behind his head. Or he thinks the other car should move because he's in front. Or both. He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
ajprice said:
TheDeuce said:
He definitely knew he'd said the dumb thing on the radio. I think at this stage he's annoyed at his own tendancy to initially deny the obvious and then have to deal with that, on top of the original error too.
He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
Just like Turkey 2010. Moving over once he can't see the car at the side of him but the rest of his car isn't clearly past. It's like he doesn't know how long the car is behind his head. Or he thinks the other car should move because he's in front. Or both. He's the equivalent of a bartender that drops a glass and blames the person he was handing it to before it's even hit the floor.
I honestly don't think he can help it..
Graveworm said:
CustardOnChips said:
I'm absolutely staggered that Seb has avoided a penalty for this. Someone has properly bottled it.
Yep, but given the wording of the verdict, both toed the line and said it was as much my fault as his and I should have given him more room. Graveworm said:
CustardOnChips said:
I'm absolutely staggered that Seb has avoided a penalty for this. Someone has properly bottled it.
Yep, but given the wording of the verdict, both toed the line and said it was as much my fault as his and I should have given him more room. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.watch-a...
All the angles of the Hamilton/Albon crash.
Still looks like a racing incident to me. How is it points worthy?
All the angles of the Hamilton/Albon crash.
Still looks like a racing incident to me. How is it points worthy?
Couple of points re the stewarding decisions and penalties on VET and HAM. I'm sure we've had it mentioned before but the general rule of thumb is the stewards will take action on incidents between opposing teams-so as the clash was between Ferrari team mates, and Ferrari themselves won't be complaining to the stewards about their own drivers it gets forgotten about.
As for HAM, as much as I thought he should chuck it in and ALB was lazy in closing the door most importantly, HAM locked up going in thus was not in full control of his vehicle. We've seen it before, we'll see it again. It was a ballsy move and I firmly believe if he hadn't locked up he'd have got off with it. If he'd have still locked up but ALB had avoided him he'd have got off with it but they didn't so it was the punishment deserved.
Personally I think both are fair with regards to previous punishments.
As for HAM, as much as I thought he should chuck it in and ALB was lazy in closing the door most importantly, HAM locked up going in thus was not in full control of his vehicle. We've seen it before, we'll see it again. It was a ballsy move and I firmly believe if he hadn't locked up he'd have got off with it. If he'd have still locked up but ALB had avoided him he'd have got off with it but they didn't so it was the punishment deserved.
Personally I think both are fair with regards to previous punishments.
It seems that Hamilton was invited to speak to the stewards, and that the team informed the stewards that Hamilton's public apology accepting (partial) blame for the incident was his input on the matter.
It rather looks like the stewards have penalised Hamilton just as if he had played the full Shaggy defence on TV, then refused to talk to them.
It rather looks like the stewards have penalised Hamilton just as if he had played the full Shaggy defence on TV, then refused to talk to them.
I call it a "Grandad Move". Enough space is left to allow the following car though but the car in front then shuts the door because they do not think anybody can get past. I always blame the driver in front. It's a dick move not helped by having no visibility in Modern cars. They need to find a position where drivers see more of their car and the cars around them.
London424 said:
The first SC was right out of the book of Bernie. I think the next chapter is about trackside sprinklers.
I agree. When Bottas parked his car I thought it was a great bit of driving to avoid the Safety Car as a waved double yellow of VSC would have allowed them to push the car through the gap. Instantly the SC is deployed.Bit contrived or what?Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff