Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
Deesee said:
Derek Smith said:
I wondered if Merc had turned down Hamilton's engine after the Bottas failure. They would not want that to happen twice in the same race. I was watching on live timing to see if there was a drop in lap times, but with everyone being so close together, it was impossible to say. That is, right up until the drag to the line.
The drag up the line Ham was 10/20kph down, I think I posted the timing earlier in the thread.There’s the drag up the hill ham vs Gasly Telemetry.
https://twitter.com/deesee15723775/status/11961714...
Edited by Deesee on Wednesday 20th November 16:26
Derek Smith said:
Deesee said:
Derek Smith said:
I wondered if Merc had turned down Hamilton's engine after the Bottas failure. They would not want that to happen twice in the same race. I was watching on live timing to see if there was a drop in lap times, but with everyone being so close together, it was impossible to say. That is, right up until the drag to the line.
The drag up the line Ham was 10/20kph down, I think I posted the timing earlier in the thread.There’s the drag up the hill ham vs Gasly Telemetry.
https://twitter.com/deesee15723775/status/11961714...
Edited by Deesee on Wednesday 20th November 16:26
SturdyHSV said:
RemarkLima said:
This is the same as the Red Bull's a full years back right? High downforce, great in the corners, and lead from the front... Only post Newey they seem to have adopted a slight lower downforce setup.
Mercedes even have the high rake like the Red Bulls of then.
There was an article about the fact Mercedes are the only ones using a basically zero rake philosophy compared to everyone else following Red Bull's high rake philosophy, have MB now changed? That would apparently be a major change to the whole car to make such a shift?Mercedes even have the high rake like the Red Bulls of then.
Also, as far as I'm aware Mr Newey still works at RB since the days of them leading from the front..
EDIT:
This article https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47838557
I also thought Newey was a bit of a background character in the last few years... But I could well be wrong on all accounts here ;-)
Evangelion said:
sparta6 said:
Gotta feel for Albon being punted off, 2nd to nowhere.
As I said before, you punt somebody off that close to the end, you should have your finishing positions swapped in the results...what happens when both cars don’t finish? Reinstate a car back onto the podium? How fair is that on the guy who just lost out
Utterly ridiculous idea
37chevy said:
Evangelion said:
sparta6 said:
Gotta feel for Albon being punted off, 2nd to nowhere.
As I said before, you punt somebody off that close to the end, you should have your finishing positions swapped in the results...what happens when both cars don’t finish? Reinstate a car back onto the podium? How fair is that on the guy who just lost out
Utterly ridiculous idea
Evangelion said:
And as I've said before, a five second penalty for one driver doesn't help the poor sod he punted off. So instead of attacking my idea, perhaps you could come up with one of your own?
Yeh leave it as it is, like it’s been for a century...s
t happens, that’s racing....what next, every overtake where you’re run wide, every time you’re spun out at the start of the race or getting held up in the pits you’re going to get your place back because it’s unfair? Have you thought how to impliment that idea?
Where does it end?
Ridiculous
37chevy said:
Evangelion said:
And as I've said before, a five second penalty for one driver doesn't help the poor sod he punted off. So instead of attacking my idea, perhaps you could come up with one of your own?
Yeh leave it as it is, like it’s been for a century...st happens, that’s racing....what next, every overtake where you’re run wide, every time you’re spun out at the start of the race or getting held up in the pits you’re going to get your place back because it’s unfair? Have you thought how to impliment that idea?
Where does it end?
Ridiculous
The vast majority of fans would hate such faffiness and I honestly can't remember any such incident where the 'victim' driver hasn't eventually reflected that 'sometimes that's just how it goes'. CLC accepted it soon enough as a misfortunate incident, which isn't surprising as he's been racing since a young age and will have been both the sufferer and the cause of endless such incidents. Same for every driver on the grid. In the end the system is already fair, by way of being the same for everyone.
Evangelion said:
Bet the Hamilton fanbois didn't say that when RAI punted him into last place.
On reflection, yes I certainly did - in spite of the injustice. Over time and having watched a lot of racing I've seen all drivers enjoy shockingly good and bad luck.The thing about luck is that it can happen anytime and sometimes it happens to get in the way of the expected result at the 11th hour. Sad but it's not an element that can be removed from racing.
E34-3.2 said:
Nope, Albon has been playing stock car at nearly every races, he knows the risks of racing.
Indeed. Gotta remember he's still a rookie, it was very naive of him to leave the door so far open, so close to the end of the race, with a fresh-tyred Hamilton behind him anxious to make up spaces, and not have him attempt to send up the inside. He'll now learn to be far more defensive in a similar situation again. Personally, I was so much happier for a Gasly result in that situation that I would have been for Albon. He'll have plenty more chances in the future.
Evangelion said:
And as I've said before, a five second penalty for one driver doesn't help the poor sod he punted off. So instead of attacking my idea, perhaps you could come up with one of your own?
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