Penske to buy Mercedes F1
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Welshbeef said:
Exige77 said:
Maybe Honda can buy their old team back 
Shame they have as much power as a washing machine. The AMGs are hugely powerful and utterly reliable. It’s no longer safe to use them for washing young children or pets.
janesmith1950 said:
If Woolf worked for F1 in some capacity, it would be incompatible with his ownership of the team.
My best guess is that the Mercedes board will have agreed to cease being a team owner from 2021 and will look to conclude a sale of the team ASAP so they can hand over seamlessly during next season (where they compete as a Mercedes owned team). Woolf's share to possibly sell ASAP to the eventual buyer of the whole team, prior to completion of the full outfit.
Hamilton and Vettel to swap places for 2021.
Partly makes sense apart from no new owner would want an expensive Vettel when there’s so much other young talent available.My best guess is that the Mercedes board will have agreed to cease being a team owner from 2021 and will look to conclude a sale of the team ASAP so they can hand over seamlessly during next season (where they compete as a Mercedes owned team). Woolf's share to possibly sell ASAP to the eventual buyer of the whole team, prior to completion of the full outfit.
Hamilton and Vettel to swap places for 2021.
There’s also some question marks about how good Vettel is at quickly adapting to big rule changes.
He went from hero to zero at Red Bull.
EDLT said:
They (well, Hamilton) need two more titles to beat every record.
Equalling is frankly good enough, along with various other records he will break outright.Combined with his team having the most dominant streak ever it's enough to cement him and his team as the stars of what will become a golden age of F1. It could be a very long time before such a combined success story in F1 threatens to outdo this one.
TheDeuce said:
Equalling is frankly good enough, along with various other records he will break outright.
Combined with his team having the most dominant streak ever it's enough to cement him and his team as the stars of what will become a golden age of F1. It could be a very long time before such a combined success story in F1 threatens to outdo this one.
The same was said about Schumacher/Ferrari. It only needs a major rule change for one team to get the jump, Red Bull could well have got 5 or 6 titles from 09 to 14. Merc in the Hybrid era. It's 18 months until the next big rule change, the belief that everyone will be close just won't be the case. Combined with his team having the most dominant streak ever it's enough to cement him and his team as the stars of what will become a golden age of F1. It could be a very long time before such a combined success story in F1 threatens to outdo this one.
DanielSan said:
TheDeuce said:
Equalling is frankly good enough, along with various other records he will break outright.
Combined with his team having the most dominant streak ever it's enough to cement him and his team as the stars of what will become a golden age of F1. It could be a very long time before such a combined success story in F1 threatens to outdo this one.
The same was said about Schumacher/Ferrari. It only needs a major rule change for one team to get the jump, Red Bull could well have got 5 or 6 titles from 09 to 14. Merc in the Hybrid era. It's 18 months until the next big rule change, the belief that everyone will be close just won't be the case. Combined with his team having the most dominant streak ever it's enough to cement him and his team as the stars of what will become a golden age of F1. It could be a very long time before such a combined success story in F1 threatens to outdo this one.
I do think that the cost caps, no matter how leaky will draw the teams at least slightly closer together so such a period of dominance is slightly less likely anytime soon as a result. But I accept one team could land on their feet and own the sport come 2021. Hence my choice of wording.
I suspected this when McLaren announced they're reverting to Merc engines from 2021. Four teams is a lot, and McLaren reverting to being main "factory" customer makes sense.
Would also explain why they were willing to let Ocon go to Renault, rather than keep him for 2021.
Would also explain why they were willing to let Ocon go to Renault, rather than keep him for 2021.
Edited by Mr. White on Saturday 16th November 21:45
I’ve heard it today somewhere that toto is been lined up for chase careys job and Hamilton is waiting to see what toto is doing before making his decision! I suspect Mercedes will leave the sport and mclaren will get merc engines and they may even get Lewis back or maybe he will go Ferrari
EDLT said:
TheDeuce said:
EDLT said:
They (well, Hamilton) need two more titles to beat every record.
Equalling is frankly good enough, along with various other records he will break outright.For all I know they have every intention of carrying on into 2021 and beyond. But if they were looking to exit, the end of next season would be the perfect time logically. Even if it were at the cost of helping Lewis get an 8th title 2021 and beyond. I imagine also that if he wants that 8th title, he can pretty much pick whichever team he wishes, if Mercedes, potentially under new ownership, were no longer placed to deliver it.
Welshbeef said:
Exige77 said:
Maybe Honda can buy their old team back
Shame they have as much power as a washing machine. The AMGs are hugely powerful and utterly reliable. EDLT said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I’m in the “not on 6 titles” camp. One more with HAM and they’ve beaten everything, I just can’t imagine why you wouldn’t want to go for it.
They (well, Hamilton) need two more titles to beat every record.Mr. White said:
I suspected this when McLaren announced they're reverting to Merc engines from 2021. Four teams is a lot, and McLaren reverting to being main "factory" customer makes sense.
I'm not so sure - McLaren had also run out of options. No going back to Honda. Renault not working. No way Ferrari would supply McLaren, so it was Renault or Mercedes.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff