George Russell
Discussion
Chris77 said:
I'm happy for Williams and George, I don't see why a lot of the anger is pointed at the drivers? they are just playing the hand they are dealt.
Some people seem to feel a need to channel:- Hate for the sake of hate
- Jealousy
- Tribalism
Same for almost all of the drivers, only a few seem to have no detractors.
I can't see how anyone would begrudge George a celebration; he out qualified the 7x WDC in a vastly inferior car in awful conditions - one of the greatest qualifying laps I have seen in 35 years following the sport.
TheDeuce said:
Why would Toto stipulate something that could only ever happen under freak circumstances entirely beyond of the drivers control? I'm pretty sure Toto wouldn't want to put his best available incoming driver out of reach due to stipulating something extremely unlikely to happen too!
In the end it did happen of course... But it took the weirdest and s
ttest F1 race of all time to make it happen.
Johnny Herberts '95 Benetton contract had a clause in it that stated he must win a race by mid season for him to be guaranteed the drive for the whole season.In the end it did happen of course... But it took the weirdest and s
ttest F1 race of all time to make it happen.vaud said:
I can't see how anyone would begrudge George a celebration; he out qualified the 7x WDC in a vastly inferior car in awful conditions - one of the greatest qualifying laps I have seen in 35 years following the sport.
It's got nothing to do with who the driver is.If any other driver was prancing about like that I'd be saying the same thing.
Following for 35 years you should know many people have had good qualifying results in difficult circumstances but not one of them has been gifted an undeserved podium for their Saturday result.
People going on like someone has handicapped Williams that's why they're s
t.No it's their own incompetence that's got them in that situation despite having arguably the best engine on the grid.
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
When George looks back once he has a real podium maybe he will have a bit of humility
SmoothCriminal said:
This guy is a pure bred winner in previous formula.
The way he was dancing around with the trophy smashing his chest like he had just won spa 24 hours solo was embarrassing.
Running about 3 seconds off the pace in that Williams has messed up his head.
When he looks back on his career and his first f1 podium was that shambles he will want to forget about it as quick as we all do
Oh and it doesn't matter what he did on Saturday he didn't deserve a podium in a so called race for his result on Saturday that's not how f1 works.
He certainly didn't deserve to get nothing from a superb drive on Saturday.The way he was dancing around with the trophy smashing his chest like he had just won spa 24 hours solo was embarrassing.
Running about 3 seconds off the pace in that Williams has messed up his head.
When he looks back on his career and his first f1 podium was that shambles he will want to forget about it as quick as we all do
Oh and it doesn't matter what he did on Saturday he didn't deserve a podium in a so called race for his result on Saturday that's not how f1 works.
No one, least of all George, would have wanted it to end that way, but 1/2 points is possibly the best outcome in the end.
Gary C said:
He certainly didn't deserve to get nothing from a superb drive on Saturday.
No one, least of all George, would have wanted it to end that way, but 1/2 points is possibly the best outcome in the end.
Yeah - sometimes in life you don't get what you deserve. No race / points is still the best solution imo.No one, least of all George, would have wanted it to end that way, but 1/2 points is possibly the best outcome in the end.
simonw67 said:
Gary C said:
He certainly didn't deserve to get nothing from a superb drive on Saturday.
No one, least of all George, would have wanted it to end that way, but 1/2 points is possibly the best outcome in the end.
Yeah - sometimes in life you don't get what you deserve. No race / points is still the best solution imo.No one, least of all George, would have wanted it to end that way, but 1/2 points is possibly the best outcome in the end.
SmoothCriminal said:
It's got nothing to do with who the driver is.
If any other driver was prancing about like that I'd be saying the same thing.
Following for 35 years you should know many people have had good qualifying results in difficult circumstances but not one of them has been gifted an undeserved podium for their Saturday result.
People going on like someone has handicapped Williams that's why they're st.
No it's their own incompetence that's got them in that situation despite having arguably the best engine on the grid.
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
When George looks back once he has a real podium maybe he will have a bit of humility
Why should he? If any other driver was prancing about like that I'd be saying the same thing.
Following for 35 years you should know many people have had good qualifying results in difficult circumstances but not one of them has been gifted an undeserved podium for their Saturday result.
People going on like someone has handicapped Williams that's why they're s
t.No it's their own incompetence that's got them in that situation despite having arguably the best engine on the grid.
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
When George looks back once he has a real podium maybe he will have a bit of humility
OK he got the result on Saturday, but where were the alphas and Haas's in the same conditions?
He managed to get P2 in a Williams that is generally reckoned to be sh*t which just makes it a more impressive performance for me!
Mr Tidy said:
Why should he?
OK he got the result on Saturday, but where were the alphas and Haas's in the same conditions?
He managed to get P2 in a Williams that is generally reckoned to be sh*t which just makes it a more impressive performance for me!
I think if they'd canned the race, apologised to everyone and awarded half points based on qualifying it may be less of an issue for many (most?)OK he got the result on Saturday, but where were the alphas and Haas's in the same conditions?
He managed to get P2 in a Williams that is generally reckoned to be sh*t which just makes it a more impressive performance for me!
But as it stands I suspect there a lot of dissonance being felt that if you say George deserved those points then you're condoning the wholesale sham that is presenting two laps behind a safety car as a race. As fans it's our duty to renounce that.
I'd say he's in a pretty fortunate position all things considered.Mr Tidy said:
SmoothCriminal said:
It's got nothing to do with who the driver is.
If any other driver was prancing about like that I'd be saying the same thing.
Following for 35 years you should know many people have had good qualifying results in difficult circumstances but not one of them has been gifted an undeserved podium for their Saturday result.
People going on like someone has handicapped Williams that's why they're st.
No it's their own incompetence that's got them in that situation despite having arguably the best engine on the grid.
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
When George looks back once he has a real podium maybe he will have a bit of humility
Why should he? If any other driver was prancing about like that I'd be saying the same thing.
Following for 35 years you should know many people have had good qualifying results in difficult circumstances but not one of them has been gifted an undeserved podium for their Saturday result.
People going on like someone has handicapped Williams that's why they're s
t.No it's their own incompetence that's got them in that situation despite having arguably the best engine on the grid.
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
When George looks back once he has a real podium maybe he will have a bit of humility
OK he got the result on Saturday, but where were the alphas and Haas's in the same conditions?
He managed to get P2 in a Williams that is generally reckoned to be sh*t which just makes it a more impressive performance for me!
He did nothing on Sunday that deserved a podium and points unless you believe 2 laps behind a safety car with no overtaking is a race.
I think George is the real deal, I thought he was going to excel in the merc at Bahrian and he did, I can't wait till he gets the chance that Max and Charles have had to show their potential.
But was super embarrassing seeing him slapping his chest dancing around looking smug when we full well know he had zero chance of staying in that position if the fia sham never happened.
Alonso is right some people got an early Christmas present from the FIA
SmoothCriminal said:
Because you do not get points or podiums for Saturday.
Maybe they should.Certainly, the rules need to be set so that everyone can agree and know what should happen.
But, I am not going to decry George his moment, he did fantastic on Saturday, and no one can argue, Saturday is part of the race.
Just accept it as a ‘ TRIGGERS BROOM’ moment...
He got his trophy & he felt honoured.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=56yN2zHtofM
He got his trophy & he felt honoured.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=56yN2zHtofM
SmoothCriminal said:
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
Maybe if they'd have an equally talented driver, they'd have been in a position to benefit as wellIf the race had run in awful conditions, it's no guarantee to assume that Russell would have tumbled down the running order
mat205125 said:
SmoothCriminal said:
I feel sorry for alpha and Haas not being gifted points and podiums by the fia.
Maybe if they'd have an equally talented driver, they'd have been in a position to benefit as wellIf the race had run in awful conditions, it's no guarantee to assume that Russell would have tumbled down the running order
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