Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

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TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Deesee said:
Well, it would appear they have (RP) have been running red bull philosophy’s in the Merc wind tunnel too. I’m sure that had no bearing on the blueprints for the parts being handed over, quite a way to prepare for the budget cap.. just take the IP.

If there’s two guys that don’t muck about is Toto and Lawerence..it’s like having a pair of velociraptors in the paddock.
It's quite a twist going in to this season isn't it? Didn't see this one coming smile

And unlike most that is learned from pre-season, this is a real story. They're definitely going to benefit this season from this new.. umm.. arrangement.

Deesee

8,421 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Well, it would appear they have (RP) have been running red bull philosophy’s in the Merc wind tunnel too. I’m sure that had no bearing on the blueprints for the parts being handed over, quite a way to prepare for the budget cap.. just take the IP.

If there’s two guys that don’t muck about is Toto and Lawerence..it’s like having a pair of velociraptors in the paddock.
It's quite a twist going in to this season isn't it? Didn't see this one coming smile

And unlike most that is learned from pre-season, this is a real story. They're definitely going to benefit this season from this new.. umm.. arrangement.
Indeed... you’ve got to look at the other teams who blocked the WCC money when F India became racing point.

No funds to develop a car 18 month in the future, no problem..

ChocolateFrog

25,335 posts

173 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Good on them as long as it's within the rules.

Didn't we have the same conversation regarding HAAS a couple of seasons ago but it never came to much.

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Deesee said:
Indeed... you’ve got to look at the other teams who blocked the WCC money when F India became racing point.

No funds to develop a car 18 month in the future, no problem..
From a different perspective.. have Mercedes just helped RP knock their new customer, McLaren off a 4th WCC finish this year? Potentially gonna screw up the McLaren v Renault battle for 4th I was looking forward too this year!

ChocolateFrog

25,335 posts

173 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Indeed... you’ve got to look at the other teams who blocked the WCC money when F India became racing point.

No funds to develop a car 18 month in the future, no problem..
From a different perspective.. have Mercedes just helped RP knock their new customer, McLaren off a 4th WCC finish this year? Potentially gonna screw up the McLaren v Renault battle for 4th I was looking forward too this year!
Even if it's a battle for 5th it isn't going to change the dynamic on the track, should still be a good battle.

I bet Danny Ric is feeling a little depressed if it does pan out that way.

Deesee

8,421 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Indeed... you’ve got to look at the other teams who blocked the WCC money when F India became racing point.

No funds to develop a car 18 month in the future, no problem..
From a different perspective.. have Mercedes just helped RP knock their new customer, McLaren off a 4th WCC finish this year? Potentially gonna screw up the McLaren v Renault battle for 4th I was looking forward too this year!
Even if it's a battle for 5th it isn't going to change the dynamic on the track, should still be a good battle.

I bet Danny Ric is feeling a little depressed if it does pan out that way.
More teams closer together win/win,

First podium this yr, Dani or Lance hehe

(Btw the force india/Jordan/racing Aston is my team)!!!!

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Deesee said:
More teams closer together win/win,

First podium this yr, Dani or Lance hehe

(Btw the force india/Jordan/racing Aston is my team)!!!!
I hope you're very proud of their innovation this season then wink

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Deesee

8,421 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
More teams closer together win/win,

First podium this yr, Dani or Lance hehe

(Btw the force india/Jordan/racing Aston is my team)!!!!
I hope you're very proud of their innovation this season then wink

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Yep.. let’s get some podiums..

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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I don't have a problem with the Racing. so long as they are playing within the same rules as everybody else.

For instance nobody appears to have stopped Williams cosying up to Merc and doing the same thing...except Williams.

I'm all for "customer teams" running last years designs anyway. Hopefully it keeps the team healthy financially and introduces more "fighting" up the front half of the grid.

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Lewis in to the 1:16's already!

Hell of a day one this is turning out to be smile

ChocolateFrog

25,335 posts

173 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Sky's laptime graphic has Kubica in a William's, kind of understandable but it also has Riccardo in a McLaren.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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That Renault livery can't be the livery they'll run in the season can it? Looks half arsed?

Deesee

8,421 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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sgtBerbatov said:
That Renault livery can't be the livery they'll run in the season can it? Looks half arsed?
It’s a testing livery, there’s a bit to hide on the car this yr..

(Best read end on the grid I’m told)...

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Hamilton improves again smile

Max looking set to do 170+ laps..

geeks

9,184 posts

139 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Can’t remember the last testing I have seen with so much running with decent reliability and so few red flags!

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Ferrari seem to have done fewer laps than most, and not set a very impressive time.

Minor issues reducing running? Playing about with many changes to get data?

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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geeks said:
Can’t remember the last testing I have seen with so much running with decent reliability and so few red flags!
It'll be a very different story this time next year- looking forward to that!

For day one of testing today has been superb, much less predictable than I guessed.


ajprice

27,479 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Not counting Giovanazzi, all the cars are within 1.5 seconds of the fastest lap and (I think) between the drivers all the cars have done 100 laps or more.

Looking good so far.

• yes I know it's testing and lap times don't matter, but for day 1 it's a good show.

geeks

9,184 posts

139 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
geeks said:
Can’t remember the last testing I have seen with so much running with decent reliability and so few red flags!
It'll be a very different story this time next year- looking forward to that!

For day one of testing today has been superb, much less predictable than I guessed.
Yeah good point, next year it’s all new again. Although I’d still bank on lots of running as a result of the red flags their will be lots to learn very quickly!

ajprice said:
Not counting Giovanazzi, all the cars are within 1.5 seconds of the fastest lap and (I think) between the drivers all the cars have done 100 laps or more.

Looking good so far.

• yes I know it's testing and lap times don't matter, but for day 1 it's a good show.
Williams are faster than they were at qualy 2019 already.

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Wednesday 19th February 2020
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Take home today:

  • Racing Point - fk me.
  • Ferrari - not in the mix today, wonder if there is something they're not happy with?
  • Alfa and HAAS also not in the mix.. (see above?)
  • Williams - clearly better than last year, probably still at the back but progress IS progress, and it looks maybe enough to grab a few points this season?
  • Max - 168 laps, insane.
  • Renault - three times today matched without exceeding faster laps set by McLaren, seems like they have a little more than they wish to show just yet.