F1 cancelled this year?
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
Children have to be educated. There is an imperative at work.
F1 doesn't have to happen. It's entertainment.
As a sport that's true. As a business and a significant part of the economy, there is a good argument that all such sports should be run as soon as practicable.F1 doesn't have to happen. It's entertainment.
Not to mention all this sitting around at home... I'd appreciate some televised sport - something we all enjoy together whilst apart!
Eric Mc said:
Children have to be educated. There is an imperative at work.
F1 doesn't have to happen. It's entertainment.
True but the same goes for opening garden centres, etc. We have to balance risks and the economy. Getting people back to work is critical, and that includes entertainment.F1 doesn't have to happen. It's entertainment.
Nope - it's entertainment pure and simple. Of course there are people whose livelihoods depend on it - just like any other form of professional entertainment whether that's the music industry, other sports, theatre, cinema or TV drama. None of it is essential and not having it for a while is not going to kill people. In fact, it will save lives. In the big scheme F1 doesn't matter, it's for fun.
It has had to stop before - and was restarted at the right time.
It has had to stop before - and was restarted at the right time.
Whilst I am in the ‘there will be no F1 this season’, I would like there to be F1 this year but I can’t see it happening. Whilst it is just entertainment so is football, eating out, cinema, theatre, TV, festivals, pubs etc etc These provide a livelihood to 10’s of thousands and pleasure to millions.
Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Eric Mc said:
Nope - it's entertainment pure and simple. Of course there are people whose livelihoods depend on it - just like any other form of professional entertainment whether that's the music industry, other sports, theatre, cinema or TV drama. None of it is essential and not having it for a while is not going to kill people. In fact, it will save lives. In the big scheme F1 doesn't matter, it's for fun.
It has had to stop before - and was restarted at the right time.
Along with all the boring parts of life it all adds up to a healthy economy - which is what's needed. Of course we could probably cope without businesses whose only output is entertainment.. but why not have them and their economic benefit too?It has had to stop before - and was restarted at the right time.
As for the risks... Sports are naturally under a media spotlight. By the time the lawyers and H&S army are satisfied, I imagine being in the paddock will be safer than going to a supermarket or school and so on.
I work in TV and films, all of which is entertainment. Almost everyone involved is freelance, but everyone is very keen to get back to work and there's been no complaining. There has been a lot of support though, it turns out the viewers of countdown are quite distressed it's 2 months late getting back in to the studio - those stuck at home for their own safety probably see entertainment as vital to their sanity.
Me personally... I'm happy just to be getting back and being busy.
Gazzab said:
Whilst I am in the ‘there will be no F1 this season’, I would like there to be F1 this year but I can’t see it happening. Whilst it is just entertainment so is football, eating out, cinema, theatre, TV, festivals, pubs etc etc These provide a livelihood to 10’s of thousands and pleasure to millions.
Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Agree. 35k lives lost, approx 30k of which were in a high risk group.. Vs probably 80k that will die this year related to smoking. Cigs are still on sale so it seems sensible that business and work should recommence as safely as possible.Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Those at risk can be supported as they lock down which they should. But without the masses returning to activity such support can't be indefinitely paid for.
TheDeuce said:
Gazzab said:
Whilst I am in the ‘there will be no F1 this season’, I would like there to be F1 this year but I can’t see it happening. Whilst it is just entertainment so is football, eating out, cinema, theatre, TV, festivals, pubs etc etc These provide a livelihood to 10’s of thousands and pleasure to millions.
Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Agree. 35k lives lost, approx 30k of which were in a high risk group.. Vs probably 80k that will die this year related to smoking. Cigs are still on sale so it seems sensible that business and work should recommence as safely as possible.Generally ‘only’ those with underlying health issues are at risk of dying. BUT nearly 20% of people have severe symptoms and 14% end up hospitalised. So let’s protect those at risk (age, sex, ethnicity, underlying health etc) and protect the nhs but crack on with opening up our economy. This should include motorsport.
Those at risk can be supported as they lock down which they should. But without the masses returning to activity such support can't be indefinitely paid for.
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Gazzab said:
1% of those that died did not have a pre existing condition. See this :
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Unfortunately about 35,000 people have died on this in the UK. Of that, c.250 have been aged under 60 with no pre-existing conditions. These stats show what they are trying to achieve, shield those that are extremely vulnerable to the virus but get everyone back working asap wherever possible. And that will include sport.https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Gazzab said:
1% of those that died did not have a pre existing condition. See this :
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Thanks - I've checked the stats quite a bit. It is indeed extremely unlikely to be solely responsible for the loss of a life, not that that makes it any less terrible for those who are affected of course.https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Gazzab said:
1% of those that died did not have a pre existing condition. See this :
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Is that "no pre existing condition" or "no known pre existing condition"?https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
vaud said:
Gazzab said:
1% of those that died did not have a pre existing condition. See this :
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
Is that "no pre existing condition" or "no known pre existing condition"?https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/...
It would only further reduce the excuse for most people to stay off work if so.
TheDeuce said:
Along with all the boring parts of life it all adds up to a healthy economy - which is what's needed. Of course we could probably cope without businesses whose only output is entertainment.. but why not have them and their economic benefit too?
As for the risks... Sports are naturally under a media spotlight. By the time the lawyers and H&S army are satisfied, I imagine being in the paddock will be safer than going to a supermarket or school and so on.
I work in TV and films, all of which is entertainment. Almost everyone involved is freelance, but everyone is very keen to get back to work and there's been no complaining. There has been a lot of support though, it turns out the viewers of countdown are quite distressed it's 2 months late getting back in to the studio - those stuck at home for their own safety probably see entertainment as vital to their sanity.
Me personally... I'm happy just to be getting back and being busy.
Yep - all nice to have but not essential for life. We can live without F1 - honestly, we can. Even PHers.As for the risks... Sports are naturally under a media spotlight. By the time the lawyers and H&S army are satisfied, I imagine being in the paddock will be safer than going to a supermarket or school and so on.
I work in TV and films, all of which is entertainment. Almost everyone involved is freelance, but everyone is very keen to get back to work and there's been no complaining. There has been a lot of support though, it turns out the viewers of countdown are quite distressed it's 2 months late getting back in to the studio - those stuck at home for their own safety probably see entertainment as vital to their sanity.
Me personally... I'm happy just to be getting back and being busy.
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