F1 cancelled this year?
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jsf said:
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Exige77 said:
Sounds like you have a bit of a chip for whatever reason.
If you love motorsport at all levels and all types then you should be concerned about how F1 operates in today's environment. I see very little community based activity with F1; that is working with disadvantaged kids as an example and as part of the wider promotion of an event. Most of the 'media' stuff that drivers do is banal, demeaning and of little societal advantage. I'd like to see Sky do a report on Lewis for example, visiting the favelas of Brazil and making some kids day. But mostly I get irked by the fact that for most people, F1 is motorsport and then irked some more that the grass roots is directly impacted by the huge money hoover that is F1. For the long term benefit of the sport its top echelon needs to invest in all rungs below it to increase participation. F1 is just a microcosm of all that is wrong with the perception of today's society. Fairness, equality, environment, all key political agendas that aren't going to change soon. So I want F1 to be at the forefront of all that and support the sport as a whole. And I say this as someone who is right of centre politics and loves cars and motorsport.Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
If you love motorsport at all levels and all types then you should be concerned about how F1 operates in today's environment. I see very little community based activity with F1; that is working with disadvantaged kids as an example and as part of the wider promotion of an event. Most of the 'media' stuff that drivers do is banal, demeaning and of little societal advantage. I'd like to see Sky do a report on Lewis for example, visiting the favelas of Brazil and making some kids day. But mostly I get irked by the fact that for most people, F1 is motorsport and then irked some more that the grass roots is directly impacted by the huge money hoover that is F1. For the long term benefit of the sport its top echelon needs to invest in all rungs below it to increase participation. F1 is just a microcosm of all that is wrong with the perception of today's society. Fairness, equality, environment, all key political agendas that aren't going to change soon. So I want F1 to be at the forefront of all that and support the sport as a whole. And I say this as someone who is right of centre politics and loves cars and motorsport.
I have a lot of time for all you have said, in life in general. I try to get my life right, I worry to a degree about how much I waste and how I can be better to people around me and not say the wrong things - I even have the dreaded '21st century guilt' sometimes. But when I'm worn out with the moral pressures of modern society, I like to watch F1 and escape to a fantasy land of fast cars and glamour, for it's own sake - just because it's fun. So I would add F1 to a reasonably long list of things I think should continue to exist in their purest form, without being used as yet another platform to do good. For me not all things should be 'on trend - on message'. Some things should just be what they are and accepted. Not everything should be diluted for the sake of showing responsibility. What will be left when we just want to tune in and be happy in a simple, non-challenging way?
janesmith1950 said:
F1 is a spectacle, a show.
The audience wants to see the best races with the best cars and the best drivers.
irrelevant powertrains
Forgive me for thinking we'd all prefer to see race teams racing to see who can drive 200 miles flat out in a battle of who's just plain fastest
Most of the races last season were fantastic. And the current crop of drivers is one of the best we've had from back to front for decades.
How are the power trains irrelevant? They are incredible pieces of engineering. Hybrid forced induction PUs with massive power, now over 50% thermal efficiency with astonishing levels of reliability. Just what high end performance cars are trying to replace.
F1 Has never been about doing 200 miles flat out. There has always been some element of trying to win at the slowest possible pace.
The current PUs sound fantastic if you go watch a live race. They are infinitely more interesting than the previous V8s that were just loud and high pitched. You can also hear much more of what is going on with and around the car.
TheDeuce said:
Derek Smith said:
Dangerously back on topic: the Bahrain GP organisers have stopped selling tickets for the event.
Yet confusingly have also apparently said they won't impose travel bans that would affect F1.rallycross said:
But it doesn't yet apply to Modena, although it looks likely that it will shortly. However, you can leave for essential work reasons, so any Ferrari etc. mechanics could use that exception, assuming that Australia or Bahrain will let them in. Presumably they will still be able to have replacement and upgraded parts flown out to races, which might have to be washed in bleach when they arrive at their destination!The current plan is to restrict Lombardy, but there are also plans for 11 other areas. Modena and Emilia Romagna are 2 of the 11, so it would include Maranello either way. I don't think they will go into such micro-detail as to list work that is covered by the exemption and work that is not, and even if they did, given the importance of Ferrari to Italy, they would always grant them the exemption! The bigger issue is whether they would be allowed into the country hosting the race, and the biggest issue of all is whether that race is now going happen.
TheDeuce said:
Won't be much to watch while we're all hiding at home instead of being permitted to go to work then! I work overseas a great deal, so my year is likely to become a little empty..
F1 last year was essentially my respite from Brexit being all that was debated on the outside world. And now the current global media story, which is by its nature depressing, is going to take F1 itself away. Great.
On the flip side these measures might mean a lot less people die, so there is that. It is a tough one though, human life vs some transient entertainment... hmm.F1 last year was essentially my respite from Brexit being all that was debated on the outside world. And now the current global media story, which is by its nature depressing, is going to take F1 itself away. Great.
There’s always Netflix, no shortage of things to watch on there.
Durzel said:
On the flip side these measures might mean a lot less people die, so there is that. It is a tough one though, human life vs some transient entertainment... hmm.
There’s always Netflix, no shortage of things to watch on there.
Modena is on the list. I'm surprised Ferrari, AT and Pirelli have not voluntarily decided not to go- imagine the fallout if there is a CV case in the paddock after the race, it wouldn't look great if you have sent 250 people from a Region which is clearly now in an epidemic.There’s always Netflix, no shortage of things to watch on there.
In reality, I imagine the decision will be taken for them. Odds on the GP going ahead- 3-1 against?
I think it will be impossible to run many of these races, and the ones that do occur will almost certainly have to be done behind closed doors.
It’s madness to consider sending staff (and spectators) around the world to potentially seed all of these locations with the infection.
I think realistically the only reason it hasn’t already been cancelled is that it is important to maintain some level of calm among the general population. The infection isn’t likely to kill normally healthy people, but it is almost certain that a high percentage of the world’s population is going to get it. The longer that can be delayed the better.
It’s madness to consider sending staff (and spectators) around the world to potentially seed all of these locations with the infection.
I think realistically the only reason it hasn’t already been cancelled is that it is important to maintain some level of calm among the general population. The infection isn’t likely to kill normally healthy people, but it is almost certain that a high percentage of the world’s population is going to get it. The longer that can be delayed the better.
LucyP said:
given the importance of Ferrari to Italy, they would always grant them the exemption!
Which would be crazy, considering the exemption would be used to fly multiple people out from a quarantine zone to other countries, who themselves are desperately trying to avoid the virus spreading.F1 needs to show some leadership and make some decisions.
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