The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Marca reporting Alonso is in talks with Renault with Liberty chipping in to pay some of his wages.
Weird... Why would they do that when there are new drivers available for next to nothing?Wouldn't surprise me at all if Alonso took that seat, but I don't get why anyone but Renault, or in fact even Renault should need to pay very much. Whatever else he could be doing will only pay a relatively lightweight F1 salary equivalent..
janesmith1950 said:
If I were on the board of Renault I'd be thinking "f
k that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.
If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
How about a starting salary of a 20m, and then knock a million off each time he refers to the car as a piece of sk that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
t? Everyone's a winner.TheDeuce said:
janesmith1950 said:
If I were on the board of Renault I'd be thinking "fk that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.
If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
How about a starting salary of a 20m, and then knock a million off each time he refers to the car as a piece of sk that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
t? Everyone's a winner.Swampy1982 said:
TheDeuce said:
janesmith1950 said:
If I were on the board of Renault I'd be thinking "fk that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.
If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
How about a starting salary of a 20m, and then knock a million off each time he refers to the car as a piece of sk that". Alonso's shown he's capable of giving very public slagging off for the car.If I were on the board of Liberty I'd be thinking "bring it on!".
t? Everyone's a winner.
Otispunkmeyer said:
I had a thought that Russell could go to Renault even if it was only for a session before they bow out entirely for being mediocre.
Williams are a lost cause for me. When his peers like Norris, Albon and Le Clerc are all getting on with the top seats, it must be galling for him to be driving around at the back in a mobile chicane. I'd be looking for anyway out if it was me.
It's an odd quirk of fate that the drivers who finished 1st, 2nd & 3rd in F2 2018 are in cars that are the reverse order of competitiveness to their finishing positions. Russell won and is in the Williams, the slowest, Norris finished 2nd and is in a midfield McLaren, Albon 3rd and he's in a top order Red Bull. Williams are a lost cause for me. When his peers like Norris, Albon and Le Clerc are all getting on with the top seats, it must be galling for him to be driving around at the back in a mobile chicane. I'd be looking for anyway out if it was me.
I'll be amazed if Liberty can pay some of Alonso's salary. Surely there's a rule or law that stops that. Isn't it a huge conflict of interest? The other teams couldn't be very happy about it could they? Or is this a useful side effect of the Concorde agreement having lapsed (have I got that right?)
Benrad said:
I'll be amazed if Liberty can pay some of Alonso's salary. Surely there's a rule or law that stops that. Isn't it a huge conflict of interest? The other teams couldn't be very happy about it could they? Or is this a useful side effect of the Concorde agreement having lapsed (have I got that right?)
I suppose if it were the case that Renault had demonstrated they needed xxx amount in order to sustain the team and hire another driver - Liberty could help them out with that amount - they are apparently reviewing the requests for help from each team that asks for it.Taken literally it would be a conflict of interest if they paid his salary directly. But as with all such technicalities, there are typically ways of achieving the same result without breaking any rules. Have to wait until there is more info on it.
I still can't believe we're talking seriously about him coming back!
Alonso seems to do that wear his heart on his sleeve latin temperament thing.
The cowards at mclaren played on this and were happy to let him have his outbursts while hiding in
the background.
They could easily have told him to stop it but he just got played by a crafty but hopeless team
happy to hide their own incompetence designing a fast car.
The sort of similar (driver not engine) game Renault have been playing ditching drivers every few years.
The cowards at mclaren played on this and were happy to let him have his outbursts while hiding in
the background.
They could easily have told him to stop it but he just got played by a crafty but hopeless team
happy to hide their own incompetence designing a fast car.
The sort of similar (driver not engine) game Renault have been playing ditching drivers every few years.
Fundoreen said:
Alonso seems to do that wear his heart on his sleeve latin temperament thing.
The cowards at mclaren played on this and were happy to let him have his outbursts while hiding in
the background.
They could easily have told him to stop it but he just got played by a crafty but hopeless team
happy to hide their own incompetence designing a fast car.
The sort of similar (driver not engine) game Renault have been playing ditching drivers every few years.
Not sure it was anything to do with McLaren being cowards. Alonso is what he is. You hire him knowing he will speak his mind. After years of frustration and believing he has nothing to prove, he obviously feels he's entitled to vent and it's pretty likely he will. Teams can choose to either accept this or not. McLaren clearly did for quite a long time and other people have hired him successfully after that. The cowards at mclaren played on this and were happy to let him have his outbursts while hiding in
the background.
They could easily have told him to stop it but he just got played by a crafty but hopeless team
happy to hide their own incompetence designing a fast car.
The sort of similar (driver not engine) game Renault have been playing ditching drivers every few years.
For me the question is whether Alonso is pitching for a drive at the new regs and hoping either Renault will be at the front when they come around in '22, or use 2021 as a shop window so he can move to a competitive car having shown he could maximise the Renault package and blow Ocon into the weeds.
We know Alonso has an ego the size of a supertanker...
How big is the TV market for F1, in Spain, pretty big, it made Flavio a Billionaire when he secured the rights, and Mr Alonso got his drive.
F1 TV market in Spain? Alonso sells subscriptions/brings in Viewers... Sells huge amounts of branded merchandise.
Likewise see Germany... German driver in a german team, almost certain that will happen, too big a market and No GP!
With the budget cap sponsors will not be so important, in the next few years, centrally contracted star drivers, a more even spread of prize money/revenue, well funded private/customer entry's.
I think we all want to see the best drivers, and a competitive grid.
F1 TV market in Spain? Alonso sells subscriptions/brings in Viewers... Sells huge amounts of branded merchandise.
Likewise see Germany... German driver in a german team, almost certain that will happen, too big a market and No GP!
With the budget cap sponsors will not be so important, in the next few years, centrally contracted star drivers, a more even spread of prize money/revenue, well funded private/customer entry's.
I think we all want to see the best drivers, and a competitive grid.
Deesee said:
How big is the TV market for F1, in Spain, pretty big, it made Flavio a Billionaire when he secured the rights
Did he? I thought he made his money via Benetton?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavio_Briatore
vaud said:
Deesee said:
How big is the TV market for F1, in Spain, pretty big, it made Flavio a Billionaire when he secured the rights
Did he? I thought he made his money via Benetton?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavio_Briatore
vaud said:
That's a 'colourful' past that he has.Deesee said:
Likewise see Germany... German driver in a german team, almost certain that will happen, too big a market and No GP!
Which German driver do you see signing for a German team?I guess anything is possible, and we need to remember that at the moment neither Hamilton nor Bottas have signed for Mercedes for next year.
thegreenhell said:
Deesee said:
Likewise see Germany... German driver in a german team, almost certain that will happen, too big a market and No GP!
Which German driver do you see signing for a German team?I guess anything is possible, and we need to remember that at the moment neither Hamilton nor Bottas have signed for Mercedes for next year.
maybe vettel is plotting something as we speak.
A few years back you could see a brilliant coupe as vettel is spectacularly parachuted in and hamilton suddenly has nowhere to go. (the ferrari/alonso/vettel trick all over again)
But today they know vettel may struggle against Leclerc and Verstappen so they wont be doing that at mercedes.
So do they dump the nice mr bottas who does a great job not losing them titles?
Its going to be an exhausting year of speculation but it drives the internet I guess.
thegreenhell said:
Deesee said:
Likewise see Germany... German driver in a german team, almost certain that will happen, too big a market and No GP!
Which German driver do you see signing for a German team?I guess anything is possible, and we need to remember that at the moment neither Hamilton nor Bottas have signed for Mercedes for next year.
(Funniest thing I saw this week).
I’d love to see Merc/Daimler run two teams.. LH & VB in one SV & GR in the other.. ( they’ve also got Stoffel & De Vries & Guiterez).
I’m sure there’s only 3 drivers (+ stroll) contracted for 2021, so I’m sure we’ll see a big change up ahead of the changes in 2022.
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