Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

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Clockwork Cupcake

74,605 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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paulguitar said:
Teddy Lop said:
  • and not the only time either, my mrs pointed out they seem to have given up trying to save crofty from the dilge he speaks. Change on the cards?scratchchin
I really, really hope so. I am totally fed up with having to mute the TV a lot of the time whilst he's shouting.
I don't mind him too much. He's a lot better than James Allen or Jonathan Legard were, so be careful what you wish for.

oobster

7,100 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Hope Quali goes ahead this afternoon. Always interesting when there is rain!

Can't stand that Kimi advert. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to hear his monotone drone needs shot.

Wonder why the RP cars appear to be burning oil when exiting the corners?

paulguitar

23,517 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
I don't mind him too much. He's a lot better than James Allen or Jonathan Legard were, so be careful what you wish for.
I'd put him on a par with Legard.

Allen was not a great commentator for F1, but was and is infinitely more knowledgeable than Croft.

LM240

4,678 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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paulguitar said:
Teddy Lop said:
  • and not the only time either, my mrs pointed out they seem to have given up trying to save crofty from the dilge he speaks. Change on the cards?scratchchin
I really, really hope so. I am totally fed up with having to mute the TV a lot of the time whilst he's shouting.
Yeah. Car spins and gently nudges a tyre barrier... ‘OH, IT’S A MASSIVE SHUNT!’.

And Brundle chips in as car continues.. ‘looks like minor damage and should be able to carry on’.


Edited by LM240 on Saturday 11th July 12:43

Sandpit Steve

10,099 posts

75 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Good interviews with Ross Brawn and Michael Masi on Sky.

It’s clear they want to run qualifying this afternoon, but can’t do it wih standing water on the track as we saw in F3, or in conditions unsuitable for the medical helicopter - hospital is 90 mins by road from the circuit, which is not acceptable.

The fans will want to see it today too, if only for the chance of a more mixed grid from a wet Q session - but if we have to all come back tomorrow morning to do it, then that’s what will happen.

It’s also clear just how much time, efffort and money has gone in to getting the show on the road with everything that’s happening in the world at the moment. Hats off to all involved.

FourWheelDrift

88,552 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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With the only fans sitting at home and no one at the track other than teams and circuit staff they can probably wait as long as they like today.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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LM240 said:
paulguitar said:
Teddy Lop said:
  • and not the only time either, my mrs pointed out they seem to have given up trying to save crofty from the dilge he speaks. Change on the cards?scratchchin
I really, really hope so. I am totally fed up with having to mute the TV a lot of the time whilst he's shouting.
Yeah. Car spins and gently nudges a tyre barrier... ‘OH, IT’S A MASSIVE SHUNT!’.
I know we've done it to death but the commentary really is pretty dire. Listening to croft and brundle compete with each other to apologise the mostest for mercedes decision not to race their racecars last weekend was cringeworthy. I know the reasons why and yes I know at some point you have to tow the line, but stop treating us all like morons.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,605 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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FourWheelDrift said:
With the only fans sitting at home and no one at the track other than teams and circuit staff they can probably wait as long as they like today.
Whether or not there are fans on site, there will still be the usual considerations of Commercial Rights, TV schedule slots, etc.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,605 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
I know we've done it to death but the commentary really is pretty dire.
We've had quite a few commentators since Murray Walker retired, and I can't think of any I would rather go back to. Croft & Brundle are about the best we have had since Walker & Hunt.

Edit: In my opinion, that is. This is a matter of opinion not fact, after all.





Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Teddy Lop said:
I know we've done it to death but the commentary really is pretty dire.
We've had quite a few commentators since Murray Walker retired, and I can't think of any I would rather go back to. Croft & Brundle are about the best we have had since Walker & Hunt.
brundle/coulthard was the high point.

Crofty was flattered as he couldn't really have been much worse than the idiot he replaced.

Sandpit Steve

10,099 posts

75 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Teddy Lop said:
I know we've done it to death but the commentary really is pretty dire.
We've had quite a few commentators since Murray Walker retired, and I can't think of any I would rather go back to. Croft & Brundle are about the best we have had since Walker & Hunt.
Quite. I’ve never really understood the obsession with criticising commentators. Go back and watch old races, and you’ll find most of them are very uninformed by today’s standards, and in a lot of cases weren’t even there, but just watching it on TV and reacting to the pictures. Except for when they were looking elsewhere and completely missed something! Crofty and Brundle do a good job, certainly compared to other commentators around today - the US and Australian efforts are woeful by comparison.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,605 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
brundle/coulthard was the high point.
I can't agree there. They are both pundits, both of whom are used to having a commentator to work with, and neither were able to step up to the role of commentator. It simply didn't work for me.


TheDeuce

21,715 posts

67 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
We've had quite a few commentators since Murray Walker retired, and I can't think of any I would rather go back to. Croft & Brundle are about the best we have had since Walker & Hunt.

Edit: In my opinion, that is. This is a matter of opinion not fact, after all.
I share the same opinion - best we've had since. Murray was as innacurate as croft for sure, yet more charming. Also when he got it wrong it was hilarious more than distracting.

Brundle is good imo. If I could mute croft and keep brundle I'd be pretty happy!





Swampy1982

3,306 posts

112 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Brundle is good imo. If I could mute croft and keep brundle I'd be pretty happy!
And his son...

TheDeuce

21,715 posts

67 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Swampy1982 said:
TheDeuce said:
Brundle is good imo. If I could mute croft and keep brundle I'd be pretty happy!
And his son...
Same. Exactly the same, indistinguishable nearly!

Jasandjules

69,927 posts

230 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Derek Smith said:
LH was well off the pace yesterday. It's tempting to think that he or the team must be up to something but he might just be distracted and off the boil. But, if we run with the former, might it be that he's set his car up for wet running?
TBH that is exactly what I thought yesterday watching his pace. Preparing for a wet race.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Teddy Lop said:
brundle/coulthard was the high point.
I can't agree there. They are both pundits, both of whom are used to having a commentator to work with, and neither were able to step up to the role of commentator. It simply didn't work for me.
Coulthard was appalling as his bias towards Red Bull was so apparent (he was still employed by them at the time). "Crofty" and Brundle say, 5 years ago was the best for me.

Brundle now takes his own opinion far too seriously these days and is too quick to dismiss anything he doesn't notice himself.

Nothing could be as bad as Walker and Hunt IMHO-I've said it before but dad bought Sky in '91 so we could get the European feed and rid ourselves of them! Walker is a natural treasure of course but I like the man way more than his commentary.

My judgement may be clouded by meeting Hunt and him being a complete arse mind you.

paulguitar

23,517 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Nothing could be as bad as Walker and Hunt IMHO
They were the best commentary pairing of all time!



Sandpit Steve

10,099 posts

75 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Jasandjules said:
Derek Smith said:
LH was well off the pace yesterday. It's tempting to think that he or the team must be up to something but he might just be distracted and off the boil. But, if we run with the former, might it be that he's set his car up for wet running?
TBH that is exactly what I thought yesterday watching his pace. Preparing for a wet race.
Recent history does suggest that the likely explanation is that MB were up to something yesterday, as opposed to just being a little slow.

Given the forecast, it would have made good sense to split the strategies, and have one car work on wet setup why the other optimises the dry one. The ‘wet’ car would have been a total pig to drive in the dry, but have given a pile of useful data to the team.

FourWheelDrift

88,552 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
FourWheelDrift said:
With the only fans sitting at home and no one at the track other than teams and circuit staff they can probably wait as long as they like today.
Whether or not there are fans on site, there will still be the usual considerations of Commercial Rights, TV schedule slots, etc.
Canada 2011 showed that isn't much of a problem.