Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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DanielSan said:
F1 is the only sport where the teams have a say in the rules, imagine how ridiculous it would be if Man United/Liverpool/Man City etc had a say in what rules were adopted by the Premier league every year and how the cash coming into the sport was distributed. It's the stupidest thing in sport and aslong as that's the case rules that actually improve the racing will never be put in place.
Err, they do. That's precisely why the Premier league came about, so the teams had the income and power rather than the FA.

Leithen

10,951 posts

268 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Maybe you'd like to see some more crashes too, and maybe the occasional death? Just like the good old days.
What a strange comment. Yesterday was only less safe because of lack of visibility. Lower grip and lower cornering speeds do not lower safety thresholds. Quite the opposite - higher cornering speeds have been an issue for decades.

There is an enormous amount of inertia that understandably would resist any drastic change - too much invested in design, construction, aero etc. However, yesterday showed how thrilling it is to see the equation tipped back into the favour of the driver making the difference.

I don't believe that can only happen in wet conditions. The one enormous difference we have today over the past history of F1 is the use of single make control tyres. They should be used to allow slip and scrub without damage. Aero, power output etc can all be limited through the contact patch.


tight fart

2,932 posts

274 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Any update on today's weather?

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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tight fart said:
Any update on today's weather?
..

https://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Austria/A1...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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jsf said:
DanielSan said:
F1 is the only sport where the teams have a say in the rules, imagine how ridiculous it would be if Man United/Liverpool/Man City etc had a say in what rules were adopted by the Premier league every year and how the cash coming into the sport was distributed. It's the stupidest thing in sport and aslong as that's the case rules that actually improve the racing will never be put in place.
Err, they do. That's precisely why the Premier league came about, so the teams had the income and power rather than the FA.
Seems a pretty good system where the teams have a say rather than just the regulator. That’s partly how fifa the UCI and the IOC etc all ended up so corrupt.


Sandpit Steve

10,137 posts

75 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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tight fart said:
Any update on today's weather?
Looks bright and sunny for the start of the F3 race. Something of a contrast from yesterday.

coetzeeh

2,651 posts

237 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Can drivers start on tyres of their choice given sunny outlook for today?

How will wet settings affect running in the dry - did anyone qualy on a dry setting hoping to take advantage today?

Sandpit Steve

10,137 posts

75 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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coetzeeh said:
Can drivers start on tyres of their choice given sunny outlook for today?

How will wet settings affect running in the dry - did anyone qualy on a dry setting hoping to take advantage today?
Yes, tyre choice is free, but the rule that two different compounds must be used during the race still stands. Parc Fermé rules are also more relaxed than usual, to enable dry running setup changes.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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My prediction. Lap 1 Max will chuck it up T3 and leave Hamilton with a decision to either concede or risk another penalty.

Spawn

586 posts

197 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
My prediction. Lap 1 Max will chuck it up T3 and leave Hamilton with a decision to either concede or risk another penalty.
I have a feeling that this will occur too!

tight fart

2,932 posts

274 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Spawn said:
I have a feeling that this will occur too!
Lewis does have some experience with T3.

rscott

14,779 posts

192 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mark Webber's opinion :-

Just caught up on F1 Quali.
There’s a F1 category and there’s then a F1 PLUS category.
Lewis is/was in a different league.
And whoever references “easy, he’s in the best car” pls don’t comment🙄.
Have a fantastic Sunday 😘

https://twitter.com/AussieGrit/status/128220980915...

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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& Just reported he’s had two more races with bigger gaps!

(Although I think they have displaced the 2nd place doe to grid penalties on them)..


kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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coetzeeh said:
How will wet settings affect running in the dry - did anyone qualy on a dry setting hoping to take advantage today?
Hamilton gave the impression that Mercedes have hedged their bets, running a hybrid setup of sorts.

Deesee

8,469 posts

84 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Race Sets and Predicted strategies..

Plenty of rubber to choose from, and a free choice of tyres for the grid (something they they are considering for 2022).




ajprice

27,570 posts

197 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mick Schumacher was up for a podium finish in F2 when the fire extinguisher went off in the cockpit. Retired.
https://twitter.com/FIA_F2/status/1282246591232049...


Mr Pointy

11,263 posts

160 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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How many Safety Cars will there be though? It was those that messed up the careful planning last week. I wouldn't be surprised if there were at least two today.

I just hope the Mecedes strategy gets it right this week.

TheDeuce

21,830 posts

67 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Looking forward to this one, last week's race left a few unanswered questions due to all the incidents and DNFs etc.

In a way I'm almost hoping for a relatively straightforward race, just to see the actual race performance of the different cars..

Although I'd gladly accept carnage again too smile

motco

15,974 posts

247 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Leithen said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Maybe you'd like to see some more crashes too, and maybe the occasional death? Just like the good old days.
What a strange comment. Yesterday was only less safe because of lack of visibility. Lower grip and lower cornering speeds do not lower safety thresholds. Quite the opposite - higher cornering speeds have been an issue for decades.

There is an enormous amount of inertia that understandably would resist any drastic change - too much invested in design, construction, aero etc. However, yesterday showed how thrilling it is to see the equation tipped back into the favour of the driver making the difference.

I don't believe that can only happen in wet conditions. The one enormous difference we have today over the past history of F1 is the use of single make control tyres. They should be used to allow slip and scrub without damage. Aero, power output etc can all be limited through the contact patch.
Clair Williams said in an on-camera piece on C4 yesterday before the qualifying highlights actually started that she thinks more attrition and more crashes would be good.

TheDeuce

21,830 posts

67 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
How many Safety Cars will there be though? It was those that messed up the careful planning last week. I wouldn't be surprised if there were at least two today.

I just hope the Mecedes strategy gets it right this week.
I agree. There were so many reliability issues last week, the chances are that not all of them are fully resolved.

Also, the car killing kerbs remain.

I reckon Mercedes pace advantage is so strong that they could win even without best strategy. Although if there are multiple SC's, they don't want to get too sloppy..