Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers
Discussion
robbom3 said:
kambites said:
On the one hand if they were breaking the rules (even if it was in a way the FIA couldn't prove) then they clearly needed to me made to stop. On the other hand you have to feel sorry for the customer teams.
Completely agree. They’ve screwed the customer teams with their cheating. robbom3 said:
I can’t stand cheats.
You're watching the wrong sport then. Every team on the grid has at some time had something on their car or done something knowingly and deliberately outside the rules in order to gain an advantage, and there's probably some others on the grid with something on their car right now that we don't know about. But it's only cheating if you get caught, and it was just Ferrari's turn to get caught this time.faa77 said:
Schermerhorn said:
If this season stays at 8 races (which is not impossible)
It's very unlikely though because they'll do 2 at Bahrain and 1 at Abu DhabiClockwork Cupcake said:
Just watching the F2 and I assume the commentator is Martin Brundle's son. He really does sound so much like his dad as to be almost unbelievable. Just a slightly higher pitch to his voice, otherwise almost undistinguishable.
He's bloody quick in sportscars as well, just like his dad. I'm sure I heard an interview a while ago where MB had told him that if he wanted to try to get to F1 then he'd help him as much as he could but if he wanted to make a living out of being a racing driver in the current era going sportscar racing is a better way to do it. tight fart said:
Back to the race today, my prediction.
2nd into the first corner wins.
Long drag to turn 2, sorry 3.
By turn 4 the race will be over.
Hopping Russell finishes with more than 1 car behind him
I think the mid-field will provide immediate excitement today. Verstappen on harder tyres might add interest mid-race.2nd into the first corner wins.
Long drag to turn 2, sorry 3.
By turn 4 the race will be over.
Hopping Russell finishes with more than 1 car behind him
I'm afraid the the
I have my hopes for Lando though.
Edited by Leithen on Sunday 5th July 12:05
tight fart said:
Back to the race today, my prediction.
2nd into the first corner wins.
Long drag to turn 2, sorry 3.
By turn 4 the race will be over.
Hopping Russell finishes with more than 1 car behind him
There is the different strategy of RB with Verstappen. That could evolve later in the race. A pace car seems fairly likely and that will alter things at the front.2nd into the first corner wins.
Long drag to turn 2, sorry 3.
By turn 4 the race will be over.
Hopping Russell finishes with more than 1 car behind him
However, the promise is for an exciting race further down the field. The race for the spots behind the top three could well be the feature of the race, and might well be tremendous. I can't understand the negative tone. It's likely to be dramatic.
We've got no recent performance to go by; we have no idea of reliability. The drivers haven't raced for months so some will be rusty. There's a big difference between FP/qually and running down to turn 3 with cars trying to pass.
ajprice said:
Leithen said:
He's not very good at masking his feelings.
Vettel also did the interview after quali shown on C4 with no mask (C4 aren't there at the track so they're using Sky interviews). The shaped masks they all have a version of do look a pain though, most of the drivers in those interviews were adjusting them a lot as they were talking.DanielSan said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Just watching the F2 and I assume the commentator is Martin Brundle's son. He really does sound so much like his dad as to be almost unbelievable. Just a slightly higher pitch to his voice, otherwise almost undistinguishable.
He's bloody quick in sportscars as well, just like his dad. I'm sure I heard an interview a while ago where MB had told him that if he wanted to try to get to F1 then he'd help him as much as he could but if he wanted to make a living out of being a racing driver in the current era going sportscar racing is a better way to do it. Deesee said:
Vettels too good not to have a drive, sadly that does not seem to matter anymore.
Please tell me you're joking. Vettel had 2 opportunities to be a WDC with Ferrari and he blew both of them. He's lucky he didn't get the Gasly treatment - i.e. wasn't demoted to Sauber or Haas.Horace Van Khute said:
Deesee said:
Vettels too good not to have a drive, sadly that does not seem to matter anymore.
Please tell me you're joking. Vettel had 2 opportunities to be a WDC with Ferrari and he blew both of them. He's lucky he didn't get the Gasly treatment - i.e. wasn't demoted to Sauber or Haas.Horace Van Khute said:
Deesee said:
Vettels too good not to have a drive, sadly that does not seem to matter anymore.
Please tell me you're joking. Vettel had 2 opportunities to be a WDC with Ferrari and he blew both of them. He's lucky he didn't get the Gasly treatment - i.e. wasn't demoted to Sauber or Haas.Clockwork Cupcake said:
Horace Van Khute said:
Deesee said:
Vettels too good not to have a drive, sadly that does not seem to matter anymore.
Please tell me you're joking. Vettel had 2 opportunities to be a WDC with Ferrari and he blew both of them. He's lucky he didn't get the Gasly treatment - i.e. wasn't demoted to Sauber or Haas.He is flakey under pressure but Ferrari are at fault in my opinion for putting him under that pressure. There have been times in the last five years he was driver, strategist and team principle all at 200mph out on the circuit by himself, it was a recipe for disaster.
I'm not saying he's faultless but the atrocious management at Ferrari always put him at a disadvantage before each meltdown. 2018 in particular, almost every blunder he made was the result of the team putting him in a stupid position, he had a better car than the Mercedes and they kept putting him at a disadvantage.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out he needs managed, like most do in fact-perhaps excluding Verstappen who seems crazier out the car than in!
kambites said:
Lap deleted for track limits, no action taken for yellows because the boards were still showing green. No net change of position.
Red Bull have apparently requested a review of that 'yellow flag' decision:https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-d...
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[k]arl said:
kambites said:
Lap deleted for track limits, no action taken for yellows because the boards were still showing green. No net change of position.
Red Bull have apparently requested a review of that 'yellow flag' decision:https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-d...
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
He is flakey under pressure but Ferrari are at fault in my opinion for putting him under that pressure.
I think he has two problems. The lesser is that he tends to snap under pressure (although we've seen plenty of that form other top-line drivers too); the greater is that he's not very good at adapting his driving style to suit a car which doesn't behave exactly as he wants it to. If you'd put Hamilton in the other Redbull in the blown diffuser era, I suspect Vettel would have come out narrowly on top. Stick Vettel in the Mercedes now and I don't even think he'd beat Bottas let alone Hamilton.
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