Black Mercedes.
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Jesus the amount of triggered snowflakes in here - seemingly, genuinely, upset by an F1 team making a bold statement about diversity in the sport. And attempting, with poor poor results, to say that Mercedes are supporting the wrong thing; that they are supporting extremist elements of BLM; that Lewis and this whole racism thing, is just a bandwagon
It’s as though you snowflakes can’t see through your steamy specs; you’re so wound up. It’s pathetic and intriguing in equal measure. I can see this will be another thread highlighting Pistonheads finest.If Mercedes want to be bold in addressing the obvious lack of diversity in F1; let them. It isn’t an endorsement of BLM in particular. The current events have given context and raised the debate; simple as that. Get a grip, people.
thiscocks said:
As far as I am aware, if you are black or from an ethnic minority then the colour of your skin won't hinder you one bit. In this day and age it will most likely help you. (see previous posts about most companies wanting more 'diverse' work forces).
That would explain why the better end of my road, the end with £2m+ houses has more black residents than the council estate half a mile away.Oh hang on.....
IforB said:
Absolutely. Mainly because when you ask a simple question like that, it never gets answered and all it engenders is a load of vitriol back.
It is a dictionary definition response to a question that makes people uncomfortable.
Fear is exactly what is driving the opposition to BLM. Most of it simply fear of having prejudices reflected back that many didn't even realise they had.
In this case, it is as obvious as the nose on Pinocchio's face.
Changing a car colour in support of equal rights and equal treatment is hardly anything negative, yet for some reason people are getting angry.
Anger is usually driven by fear. Therfore, it is entirely appropriate to ask what is driving that fear and consequently the anger that is there for us all to see.
It is fascinating. Disturbing to see just how far we still have to come, but fascinating nonetheless.
Maybe these people are engineers and are worried the nasty coloured people are going to steal their jobs, and ruin the nice white middle class environment they work in. And then when they have those jobs, they will be able to move in next door. Couldn't be having then now could we? It is a dictionary definition response to a question that makes people uncomfortable.
Fear is exactly what is driving the opposition to BLM. Most of it simply fear of having prejudices reflected back that many didn't even realise they had.
In this case, it is as obvious as the nose on Pinocchio's face.
Changing a car colour in support of equal rights and equal treatment is hardly anything negative, yet for some reason people are getting angry.
Anger is usually driven by fear. Therfore, it is entirely appropriate to ask what is driving that fear and consequently the anger that is there for us all to see.
It is fascinating. Disturbing to see just how far we still have to come, but fascinating nonetheless.
Its the middle class version of low skilled workers voting for Brexit because the foreigners were stealing their jobs.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
IforB said:
Absolutely. Mainly because when you ask a simple question like that, it never gets answered and all it engenders is a load of vitriol back.
It is a dictionary definition response to a question that makes people uncomfortable.
Fear is exactly what is driving the opposition to BLM. Most of it simply fear of having prejudices reflected back that many didn't even realise they had.
In this case, it is as obvious as the nose on Pinocchio's face.
Changing a car colour in support of equal rights and equal treatment is hardly anything negative, yet for some reason people are getting angry.
Anger is usually driven by fear. Therfore, it is entirely appropriate to ask what is driving that fear and consequently the anger that is there for us all to see.
It is fascinating. Disturbing to see just how far we still have to come, but fascinating nonetheless.
Maybe these people are engineers and are worried the nasty coloured people are going to steal their jobs, and ruin the nice white middle class environment they work in. And then when they have those jobs, they will be able to move in next door. Couldn't be having then now could we? It is a dictionary definition response to a question that makes people uncomfortable.
Fear is exactly what is driving the opposition to BLM. Most of it simply fear of having prejudices reflected back that many didn't even realise they had.
In this case, it is as obvious as the nose on Pinocchio's face.
Changing a car colour in support of equal rights and equal treatment is hardly anything negative, yet for some reason people are getting angry.
Anger is usually driven by fear. Therfore, it is entirely appropriate to ask what is driving that fear and consequently the anger that is there for us all to see.
It is fascinating. Disturbing to see just how far we still have to come, but fascinating nonetheless.
Its the middle class version of low skilled workers voting for Brexit because the foreigners were stealing their jobs.
vdn said:
Jesus the amount of triggered snowflakes in here - seemingly, genuinely, upset by an F1 team making a bold statement about diversity in the sport. And attempting, with poor poor results, to say that Mercedes are supporting the wrong thing; that they are supporting extremist elements of BLM; that Lewis and this whole racism thing, is just a bandwagon
It’s as though you snowflakes can’t see through your steamy specs; you’re so wound up. It’s pathetic and intriguing in equal measure. I can see this will be another thread highlighting Pistonheads finest.If Mercedes want to be bold in addressing the obvious lack of diversity in F1; let them. It isn’t an endorsement of BLM in particular. The current events have given context and raised the debate; simple as that. Get a grip, people.
thiscocks said:
Well then I'd question what on earth has black crime in America got to do with Formula 1? Regarding the supposed racism in Formula one in not hiring enough minorities, that is another unquantifiable narrative influenced by the general BLM attitudes. As far as I am aware, if you are black or from an ethnic minority then the colour of your skin won't hinder you one bit. In this day and age it will most likely help you. (see previous posts about most companies wanting more 'diverse' work forces).
Yes the diverse workforce element that I mentioned earlier is the bit that confuses me. In my industry on job application forms you can list if you have a disability or come from a BAME background and you will be guaranteed an interview. I completely understand the disability logic but why should someone be guaranteed an interview simply due to their heritage?? Its bizarre. That is not equality of opportunity so much as positive discrimination.To bring it back to F1 however, Mercedes stated in their post that 12% of their workforce come from BAME backgrounds. The total percentage of BAME residents in Europe is 14%. To me that looks like their workforce reasonably reflects society as a whole already.
A company like Mercedes (or in my opinion any company) should employ the best people for the role based on ability and if required then qualifications alone. As long as the application process is available for all (which as far as I can see it is) then they are providing equality of opportunity and anyone complaining that this is not going far enough is likely just looking for a free ride.
TwentyFive said:
thiscocks said:
Well then I'd question what on earth has black crime in America got to do with Formula 1? Regarding the supposed racism in Formula one in not hiring enough minorities, that is another unquantifiable narrative influenced by the general BLM attitudes. As far as I am aware, if you are black or from an ethnic minority then the colour of your skin won't hinder you one bit. In this day and age it will most likely help you. (see previous posts about most companies wanting more 'diverse' work forces).
Yes the diverse workforce element that I mentioned earlier is the bit that confuses me. In my industry on job application forms you can list if you have a disability or come from a BAME background and you will be guaranteed an interview. I completely understand the disability logic but why should someone be guaranteed an interview simply due to their heritage?? Its bizarre. That is not equality of opportunity so much as positive discrimination.To bring it back to F1 however, Mercedes stated in their post that 12% of their workforce come from BAME backgrounds. The total percentage of BAME residents in Europe is 14%. To me that looks like their workforce reasonably reflects society as a whole already.
A company like Mercedes (or in my opinion any company) should employ the best people for the role based on ability and if required then qualifications alone. As long as the application process is available for all (which as far as I can see it is) then they are providing equality of opportunity and anyone complaining that this is not going far enough is likely just looking for a free ride.
Mercedes F1 have said they'll be continuing aiming to employ the best on ability, but want to find out why BAME are under-represented in the their workforce. Presumably this will involve a review of the recruiting process, comparing % of BAME & femaie applicants to % of employees, looking at how and where they actively recruit to ensure they're appealing to the widest possible pool of applicants, etc.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Triggered in 3.....2.....1......
Waiting for
It's gone to far now.
Why isn't Bottas wearing a white suit?
Just concentrate on the racing.
Don't forget *** sponsor is on the overalls. They had links to another company who, 100 years ago, had links to another company who's supplier's bank's CEO had shares in another company who promoted slavery.Waiting for
It's gone to far now.
Why isn't Bottas wearing a white suit?
Just concentrate on the racing.
Edited by PanicBuyingBogRoll on Thursday 2nd July 09:30
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Triggered in 3.....2.....1......
Waiting for
It's gone to far now.
Why isn't Bottas wearing a white suit?
Just concentrate on the racing.
I just showed this to my wife to get her opinion, she says that actually Bottas looks very happy with his new race suit Waiting for
It's gone to far now.
Why isn't Bottas wearing a white suit?
Just concentrate on the racing.
Edited by PanicBuyingBogRoll on Thursday 2nd July 09:30
Lewis might be too - but he's chosen to cover it up.
REALIST123 said:
longblackcoat said:
ash73 said:
vdn said:
The current events have given context and raised the debate
Management consultant speak.2/10, would not recommend
Muzzer79 said:
Don't forget *** sponsor is on the overalls. They had links to another company who, 100 years ago, had links to another company who's supplier's bank's CEO had shares in another company who promoted slavery.
Well you'd have to look hard to find a company that used more slave labour than Mercedes in the 1940s.thiscocks said:
Well then I'd question what on earth has black crime in America got to do with Formula 1? Regarding the supposed racism in Formula one in not hiring enough minorities, that is another unquantifiable narrative influenced by the general BLM attitudes. As far as I am aware, if you are black or from an ethnic minority then the colour of your skin won't hinder you one bit. In this day and age it will most likely help you. (see previous posts about most companies wanting more 'diverse' work forces).
All Mercedes are doing is pandering to Hamilton's awfully boresome bandwagon jumping and to this pointless woke agenda in a pathetically shallow way. It's helping no one.
Makes you wonder if Hamilton or Mercedes have even looked at the data ?All Mercedes are doing is pandering to Hamilton's awfully boresome bandwagon jumping and to this pointless woke agenda in a pathetically shallow way. It's helping no one.
No mention of the white victims killed by Police.
Afterall, Hamilton is half white.
Bo_apex said:
Makes you wonder if Hamilton or Mercedes have even looked at the data ?
No mention of the white victims killed by Police.
Afterall, Hamilton is half white.
Those stats bear no relevance on what is being protested against. It's not about how many of which ethnicity get themselves into activities where they are at risk of the police opening fire upon them... It's about the hidden % of each that are harmed/killed/mistreated in some way due to their skin colour.No mention of the white victims killed by Police.
Afterall, Hamilton is half white.
Good luck finding THOSE statistics. It's the police that write the reports after each incident, after all. And there is often no footage to show if the treatment was truly reasonable or not.
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