Black Mercedes.

Black Mercedes.

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df76

3,631 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
df76 said:
faa77 said:
Btw if their research is correct- employers (people) have agendas, surely academics (people) have agendas too? rolleyes

Edited by faa77 on Friday 3rd July 01:47
That’s an “interesting” view, I’ll give you that. Just send me some evidence that confirms that employment discrimination is now a non-issue in the UK. Anything?
Isn't asking for proof of the non existence of something a logical flaw?
So, we can all accept that discrimination in the UK is a significant issue. Great, let’s move on.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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faa77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Gammon is a racial and ageist slur
only if Panic is non white & non middle aged ...& the chances of that on PH are slim

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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df76 said:
So, we can all accept that discrimination in the UK is a significant issue. Great, let’s move on.
We certainly can. Several years ago I went through the application process for the Police force, but was rejected because my local constabulary were only recruiting for BAME candidates. How racist.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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TobyTR said:
We certainly can. Several years ago I went through the application process for the Police force, but was rejected because my local constabulary were only recruiting for BAME candidates. How racist.
& haven't you taken that rejection well

df76

3,631 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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angrymoby said:
TobyTR said:
We certainly can. Several years ago I went through the application process for the Police force, but was rejected because my local constabulary were only recruiting for BAME candidates. How racist.
& haven't you taken that rejection well
Really does demonstrate the extent of the issue I’m afraid, and shows how important that it needs to be resolved ASAP (for the benefit of all).

Toby. Hope that you were resilient to the initial rejection and now have an amazing career.

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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angrymoby said:
TobyTR said:
We certainly can. Several years ago I went through the application process for the Police force, but was rejected because my local constabulary were only recruiting for BAME candidates. How racist.
& haven't you taken that rejection well
about as well as any BAME candidate being rejected for a job on discrimination, Angry Moby. wink

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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df76 said:
Really does demonstrate the extent of the issue I’m afraid, and shows how important that it needs to be resolved ASAP (for the benefit of all).

Toby. Hope that you were resilient to the initial rejection and now have an amazing career.
beer I do now thanks smile

Someone posted on social media how they would've preferred the Mercedes team to run one Black car and one White car for the season; both working together towards a common goal - the Constructors championship. I thought that was the best idea yet.

But sadly it couldn't happen even if Mercedes pursued it, because Honda tried something similar in the past with different paint for each car and it was not allowed by the FIA(?)

RONV

536 posts

135 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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guys if you do not like it like the football do what I do switch it off and don't watch it I will not be watching it

PanicBuyingBogRoll

1,936 posts

63 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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angrymoby said:
faa77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Gammon is a racial and ageist slur
only if Panic is non white & non middle aged ...& the chances of that on PH are slim
Slim indeed.

I am chalk white, slightly overweight and middle aged. Prime Gammon biggrin

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Slim indeed.

I am chalk white, slightly overweight and middle aged. Prime Gammon biggrin
biglaugh

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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TobyTR said:
angrymoby said:
TobyTR said:
We certainly can. Several years ago I went through the application process for the Police force, but was rejected because my local constabulary were only recruiting for BAME candidates. How racist.
& haven't you taken that rejection well
about as well as any BAME candidate being rejected for a job on discrimination, Angry Moby. wink
you should have changed your name:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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faa77 said:
Next time when I ask for evidence instead of sending web links, describe the point.
I found it for you. You'd like me to read it for you too? Sorry, I'm afraid I can't understand it for you.

faa77 said:
Glad you got the personal attack in there though, typical leftie tactic when losing the argument. Awesome.
It's terribly ignorant and arrogant to assume that there is a methodological flaw in a paper you haven't even read. I'm only judging you by your word, which is why I was careful to say that it was how you were coming across.

I'm not particularly left wing, by the way - I don't consider basic human decency to be a left/right thing, racism should be detested by everyone.

Horace Van Khute

708 posts

55 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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ajprice said:
I like it smile


Is the solid black paint lighter than metallic silver? Might be a weight benefit even if it's only a kg or so. The chrome McLaren paint was heavier back when they had their Vodafone livery cars.
Beautiful, I'd love it even more if it was painted half black and half rainbow. And on both sides it said "Logic? Who gives a F*&K about logic!"

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Can’t recall seeing a black person, not one, in the F1 pit crew, maybe this season will see a racially more balanced crew? Is Lewis still brandishing his ‘keep fighting Michael’ ? What’s popular and trending, jump on bandwagon.

Horace Van Khute

708 posts

55 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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crankedup said:
Can’t recall seeing a black person, not one, in the F1 pit crew, maybe this season will see a racially more balanced crew?
I'm not sure why you singled out black people as missing from diversity, I mostly see whites, so Asian / ME and so on are also not in the mix. Don't be a racist homie.

Now, any logical person would ask this question - is it because F1 teams are purposely blocking non whites from being part of F1?

sparta6

3,698 posts

101 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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vdn said:
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vdn said:
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TheDeuce said:
sparta6 said:
Or, perhaps, he has a selective memory when advancing his career wink
But why does it matter to him? He wouldn't be able to do anything or live anywhere if he avoided all connections with all companies and places that have some level or racial discrimination in their history. Britain certainly does..

He's judging those that he sees as creating problems with equality today. There isn't a problem with Daimler Benz's behavior or associations today so there is noting to fix or judge.
I agree.
And yet Lewis is yet to convey how he thinks things could improve in Britain.
Every successful person I know has arrived through merit and hard work, regardless of ethnicity.

I don't know of another country as open and diverse.

Lewis himself is a prime example of that.
You truly are naive, ignorant and a few other things.

Your posts paint a picture; that you’ve never lived in the real world. Maybe one day you’ll get a taste.

Just repeatedly posting that Lewis is neither here nor there re’ Nazi’s - because their car is best - is about the thickest, dumbest, stupidest thing I’ve ever read on Pistonheads. And there’s a mountain to choose from wink
Ah I see. You managed to miss the bedrock of which BLM is built upon, the injustice of which was abolished almost 200 years ago.
Lewis is yet to comment on the injustice of something his Paymasters were involved with just 80 years ago.

Maybe he just doesn't know ?!

We are all equally entitled to our own views wink
Just when one thinks it’s reached peak naivety - and the thick meter is already struggling; you take it to another level. Bravo wink
Thick are those who throw insults when they lack the capacity to accept when others have an opposing point of view.

We used to get patrons at our London pub who would act in this manner, especially at chucking out time. You would have been in your element wink
I accept you have an opposing point of view. So what’s your point? Accepting the fact that you have an opposing point of view is what led me to label it thick and ignorant. Surely you can distinguish between these two prongs... or are you... dare I say it...

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The simple point that Hamilton is highly selective when soap boxing about injustices. No mention of the attrocities of 80 years ago on his paymasters doorstep, and that anti-semitism still hangs today, even at political level.

BTW going on a protest march for equality, with your nanny and bodyguard in tow, doesn't quite cut it hehe

We have opposing views on his conduct away from the track. I accept that smile

rscott

14,762 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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sparta6 said:
The simple point that Hamilton is highly selective when soap boxing about injustices. No mention of the attrocities of 80 years ago on his paymasters doorstep, and that anti-semitism still hangs today, even at political level.

BTW going on a protest march for equality, with your nanny and bodyguard in tow, doesn't quite cut it hehe

We have opposing views on his conduct away from the track. I accept that smile
Why should he comment on Daimler's past history, given that Daimler have already accepted it, apologised and made reparations.

He has direct experience of racial discrimination, something he mentioned when interviewed by Brundle recently, so why shouldn't he focus on it?

Fruitbat56

34 posts

282 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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df76 said:
I’m taking it that you read the bit where they confirmed that the ethnic status of the applicants was included on the CVs?
Delete the question about ethnic origin and the problem would be solved.

ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Well, nearly 400 posts discussing this, but Hamilton has just left the pit lane and wow does the livery look good on track.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Horace Van Khute said:
crankedup said:
Can’t recall seeing a black person, not one, in the F1 pit crew, maybe this season will see a racially more balanced crew?
I'm not sure why you singled out black people as missing from diversity, I mostly see whites, so Asian / ME and so on are also not in the mix. Don't be a racist homie.

Now, any logical person would ask this question - is it because F1 teams are purposely blocking non whites from being part of F1?
Mercedes have stated they are supporting black lives matter, hence painting their cars predominately black. Such concern hasn’t, to my recollection, seen such support of black lives within their pit crew. Surely a couple of token black skinned crew members would have given such a high profile global team a huge recognition of support.