Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)
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satfinal said:
GCH said:
Even as an Alonso fan this is 
They're adults, they know they can dish it out and also take it.
To hold Fernando to comments made, in anger is daft and Lewis knows it. They’re both bigger and better than that and the media are pillocks for painting it any other way.
Racing incident.
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here, but to be honest with a non dominant car he’s not driving like a real champion this year.
Sunday was the first race this season he hasn't finished either where he started, or more often significantly higher than where he started. It's also only the second where he hasn't finished with points. It's the first I can recall he's had any significant self inflicted problem. It's well known he's been running as a test rig on a number of occasions. He was second in the last two races, third in the previous three, in a car obviously way off the two front runners. I'd say he's driving exactly like a champion.MarkwG said:
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here, but to be honest with a non dominant car he’s not driving like a real champion this year.
Sunday was the first race this season he hasn't finished either where he started, or more often significantly higher than where he started. It's also only the second where he hasn't finished with points. It's the first I can recall he's had any significant self inflicted problem. It's well known he's been running as a test rig on a number of occasions. He was second in the last two races, third in the previous three, in a car obviously way off the two front runners. I'd say he's driving exactly like a champion.StRemy said:
MarkwG said:
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here, but to be honest with a non dominant car he’s not driving like a real champion this year.
Sunday was the first race this season he hasn't finished either where he started, or more often significantly higher than where he started. It's also only the second where he hasn't finished with points. It's the first I can recall he's had any significant self inflicted problem. It's well known he's been running as a test rig on a number of occasions. He was second in the last two races, third in the previous three, in a car obviously way off the two front runners. I'd say he's driving exactly like a champion.HTP99 said:
StRemy said:
MarkwG said:
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here, but to be honest with a non dominant car he’s not driving like a real champion this year.
Sunday was the first race this season he hasn't finished either where he started, or more often significantly higher than where he started. It's also only the second where he hasn't finished with points. It's the first I can recall he's had any significant self inflicted problem. It's well known he's been running as a test rig on a number of occasions. He was second in the last two races, third in the previous three, in a car obviously way off the two front runners. I'd say he's driving exactly like a champion.MarkwG said:
HTP99 said:
StRemy said:
MarkwG said:
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here, but to be honest with a non dominant car he’s not driving like a real champion this year.
Sunday was the first race this season he hasn't finished either where he started, or more often significantly higher than where he started. It's also only the second where he hasn't finished with points. It's the first I can recall he's had any significant self inflicted problem. It's well known he's been running as a test rig on a number of occasions. He was second in the last two races, third in the previous three, in a car obviously way off the two front runners. I'd say he's driving exactly like a champion.
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paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Long time LH fan here
You hate Lewis Hamilton.
The hit on FA was not his first mistake of that kind during this season. Maybe it’s the lack of practice due to the Mercedes dominance all these years, but although he’s one of the best starting on P1, others are a little bit better avoiding contact driving in the middle of the pack.
P.S.: Hate is something to be avoided in all aspects of life
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
I just try to be fair considering he’s among the best drivers on the grid.
No, you don't. Most of your activity here has been relentlessly anti-Hamilton waffling. Illogical that you would try to pretend otherwise.
I truly do not understand how anyone can not be a fan. What an incredible person (he also drives it like he stole it which is great). Frankly, there have been two different times when I have seen drivers act in such a way - the first was Massa in Brazil when Lewis won the WDC on the last lap, his conduct was simply astonishing. The second was Lewis in Abu Dhabi last season, to have that happen yet still behave the way he did, amazing.
Jasandjules said:
I truly do not understand how anyone can not be a fan. What an incredible person (he also drives it like he stole it which is great). Frankly, there have been two different times when I have seen drivers act in such a way - the first was Massa in Brazil when Lewis won the WDC on the last lap, his conduct was simply astonishing. The second was Lewis in Abu Dhabi last season, to have that happen yet still behave the way he did, amazing.
Some wonderful stories about him from up and down the paddock have come out via the F1 podcast too, and many from people who have absolutely no direct link or vested interest in him.I'm not sure if there is a driver on the grid who would have handled Abu Dhabi as he did...and then he still got masses of online hate for taking a break from social media.
StRemy said:
I just try to be fair considering he’s among the best drivers on the grid.
The hit on FA was not his first mistake of that kind during this season. Maybe it’s the lack of practice due to the Mercedes dominance all these years, but although he’s one of the best starting on P1, others are a little bit better avoiding contact driving in the middle of the pack.
P.S.: Hate is something to be avoided in all aspects of life
LH has won 41 races from a grid position lower than pole. Considering he has the highest number of pole positions he has a problem in making wins when not on pole.The hit on FA was not his first mistake of that kind during this season. Maybe it’s the lack of practice due to the Mercedes dominance all these years, but although he’s one of the best starting on P1, others are a little bit better avoiding contact driving in the middle of the pack.
P.S.: Hate is something to be avoided in all aspects of life
It may also be of interest to note that 41 equals the total number of Senna wins, and is also higher than all but 3 other drivers total wins (MS, SV and Alain Prost)
MustangGT said:
StRemy said:
I just try to be fair considering he’s among the best drivers on the grid.
The hit on FA was not his first mistake of that kind during this season. Maybe it’s the lack of practice due to the Mercedes dominance all these years, but although he’s one of the best starting on P1, others are a little bit better avoiding contact driving in the middle of the pack.
P.S.: Hate is something to be avoided in all aspects of life
LH has won 41 races from a grid position lower than pole. Considering he has the highest number of pole positions he has a problem in making wins when not on pole.The hit on FA was not his first mistake of that kind during this season. Maybe it’s the lack of practice due to the Mercedes dominance all these years, but although he’s one of the best starting on P1, others are a little bit better avoiding contact driving in the middle of the pack.
P.S.: Hate is something to be avoided in all aspects of life
It may also be of interest to note that 41 equals the total number of Senna wins, and is also higher than all but 3 other drivers total wins (MS, SV and Alain Prost)
Unfortunately - depending on where you sit - it's pretty hard to gauge how amazing drivers are if they spend several years in a dominant car. The car clearly makes a massive difference.
That said, Hamilton has showed his chops in weaker hardware. He was in No Man's Land back when RBR were dominating with Vettel, and we're at that place in the cycle again. If/when he's back in a dominant Mercedes, or another manufacturer, all will be forgotten and he'll be back to being "the ultimate GOAT omggggg" again.
I don't know how anyone can doubt that the car is the deciding factor when journeyman Bottas was in the mix when at Mercedes, and is basically not on the radar anymore.
Unless F1 adds some kind of ballast system ala BTCC then this will ever be thus. One manufacturer, maybe two, will luck out with the current generation of regulations and crush everyone. Frankly, I'm more disappointed that Ferrari are so utterly hopeless strategy wise, otherwise it would make for an interesting season between LeClerc and Verstappen, and Sainz and Perez, at the very least.
Durzel said:
By lower than pole are we talking front couple of rows? i.e. basically a decent start away from leading?
Unfortunately - depending on where you sit - it's pretty hard to gauge how amazing drivers are if they spend several years in a dominant car. The car clearly makes a massive difference.
That said, Hamilton has showed his chops in weaker hardware. He was in No Man's Land back when RBR were dominating with Vettel, and we're at that place in the cycle again. If/when he's back in a dominant Mercedes, or another manufacturer, all will be forgotten and he'll be back to being "the ultimate GOAT omggggg" again.
I don't know how anyone can doubt that the car is the deciding factor when journeyman Bottas was in the mix when at Mercedes, and is basically not on the radar anymore.
Unless F1 adds some kind of ballast system ala BTCC then this will ever be thus. One manufacturer, maybe two, will luck out with the current generation of regulations and crush everyone. Frankly, I'm more disappointed that Ferrari are so utterly hopeless strategy wise, otherwise it would make for an interesting season between LeClerc and Verstappen, and Sainz and Perez, at the very least.
It would be interesting to know how many of that 41 occurrences, were also off of the front row, sat next to his team mate who'd pipped him in qualifyingUnfortunately - depending on where you sit - it's pretty hard to gauge how amazing drivers are if they spend several years in a dominant car. The car clearly makes a massive difference.
That said, Hamilton has showed his chops in weaker hardware. He was in No Man's Land back when RBR were dominating with Vettel, and we're at that place in the cycle again. If/when he's back in a dominant Mercedes, or another manufacturer, all will be forgotten and he'll be back to being "the ultimate GOAT omggggg" again.
I don't know how anyone can doubt that the car is the deciding factor when journeyman Bottas was in the mix when at Mercedes, and is basically not on the radar anymore.
Unless F1 adds some kind of ballast system ala BTCC then this will ever be thus. One manufacturer, maybe two, will luck out with the current generation of regulations and crush everyone. Frankly, I'm more disappointed that Ferrari are so utterly hopeless strategy wise, otherwise it would make for an interesting season between LeClerc and Verstappen, and Sainz and Perez, at the very least.
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