Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

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nickfrog

21,199 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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paulguitar said:
rscott said:
Surely as a self confessed Lewis Hamilton supporter
hehe
rofl

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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nickfrog said:
paulguitar said:
rscott said:
Surely as a self confessed Lewis Hamilton supporter
hehe
rofl
biggrin

StRemy

358 posts

33 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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rscott said:
StRemy said:
You could discuss how hypocritical, unethical or frivolous the fashion world is and how that could collide with his (superficial) defense of certain values, but aside from that I would say the guy is quite stylish.
Surely as a self confessed Lewis Hamilton supporter, you'd know he's been pushing for change in the fashion world for over 2 years - https://fashionweekdaily.com/tommy-hilfiger-lewis-...
“Good” marketing campaing wink

MB140

4,077 posts

104 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I can hear the moaning and complaining of Lewis before this race ends.


TriumphStag3.0V8

3,866 posts

82 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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As a Lewis fan, St Remy must be absolutely gutted by that

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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StRemy said:
“Good” marketing campaing wink
You know, putting a winking smiley on the end of your toss doesn't make it into a joke.

Chamon_Lee

3,801 posts

148 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?

Stuart70

3,936 posts

184 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
If he cannot stand the strategic cock up at Mercedes, how the hell would he cope at Ferrari?
“What, you want FOUR new tyres on your car?!”


Chamon_Lee

3,801 posts

148 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Stuart70 said:
Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
If he cannot stand the strategic cock up at Mercedes, how the hell would he cope at Ferrari?
“What, you want FOUR new tyres on your car?!”
lol! I am not saying it would be perfect, I guess it was more along the lines of a fresh start, new enviornment and who knows he might be able to whip up that place into the well oiled slick operation it needs to be.

paulguitar

23,538 posts

114 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
No, he's done a great job with what he's had and has just run into a lot of bad luck.

Chamon_Lee said:
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
Whilst a Hamilton/Ferrari pairing would be about the biggest story in sport, it's hard to see it happening.





HustleRussell

24,732 posts

161 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
I think you missed the fact that he was just in with a legitimate chance to win a race for the first time since last year.

GiantCardboardPlato

4,232 posts

22 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Lewis correctly analysed that the best chance of winning the race was keeping track position. That is clearly obvious because the red bull is sufficiently faster than the Mercedes that to give up track position (even for better tyres) would be to give up the win.

Based on what they discussed the morning ('we will take risks to win') Lewis just assumed the team would also maximise the chance of the win.

Then they bring in Russel, which is out of step with how Lewis believed that they would act based on the plan from the morning.

Not sure that lewis did anything wrong.

As for the question of whether Lewis needs a new environment - no. Yesterday he went from swearing at the team (from emotion boiling over), to talking to toto, to giving an interview where he talked about the positives from the day and how he will draw encouragement from the many of them.

I think he's in just the right place, they just need to get the car sorted. His performance is above Russel, with the right car (one that is in contention) he'll go even further than he is right now against Russel, in my view. (i.e. Lewis has more headroom).

MustangGT

11,641 posts

281 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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HustleRussell said:
I think you missed the fact that he was just in with a legitimate chance to win a race for the first time since last year Silverstone.
FTFY, Safety car again the issue.

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
Stuart70 said:
Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
If he cannot stand the strategic cock up at Mercedes, how the hell would he cope at Ferrari?
“What, you want FOUR new tyres on your car?!”
lol! I am not saying it would be perfect, I guess it was more along the lines of a fresh start, new enviornment and who knows he might be able to whip up that place into the well oiled slick operation it needs to be.
For no particular reason, I can't see a scenario where Lewis would move to any other team at this point in his career, nor where he'd go anywhere that Toto wasn't

Boom78

1,227 posts

49 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Lewis to Ferrari will never happen but my god it would be some story!!! I do have a soft spot for the red cars and maybe someone like Lewis is exactly what they need, they’ve got a quick car but terrible race craft, he could work marvels there, I’d love to see it

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Boom78 said:
Lewis to Ferrari will never happen but my god it would be some story!!! I do have a soft spot for the red cars and maybe someone like Lewis is exactly what they need, they’ve got a quick car but terrible race craft, he could work marvels there, I’d love to see it
It would be a huge kudos to do what Michael did, and what Seb and Fernando tried, but couldn't achieve

nickfrog

21,199 posts

218 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Yes it would be great but probably too late now.

48Valves

1,964 posts

210 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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mat205125 said:
It would be a huge kudos to do what Michael did, and what Seb and Fernando tried, but couldn't achieve
He did. But at Mercedes not Ferrari!

g4ry13

17,031 posts

256 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Boom78 said:
Lewis to Ferrari will never happen but my god it would be some story!!! I do have a soft spot for the red cars and maybe someone like Lewis is exactly what they need, they’ve got a quick car but terrible race craft, he could work marvels there, I’d love to see it
Their car isn't as quick as the beginning of the season. The major problems with Ferrari is the total chaos and poor strategy - I don't see Lewis (or any other driver) coming in and fixing those fundamental issues.

Ferrari need another Ross Brawn in order to succeed.

Bo_apex

2,568 posts

219 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
2 things came to mind regarding LH:

1) Do people think Max/AD situation has mentally stayed with LH and affecting his performance?
2) Does he need a change to say something like Ferrari to just get a fresh new enviornment? Granted it's better to see what Merc come out with next year but for 2024 it might be time for a change if it still looks like a flop?
Lewis at Ferrari ? You cannot be serious ?
That would be too big a challenge for him.