Croft has to go

[Adrian W]

Tommo87 said:

The OP seems overly biased and protective of an unpopular viewpoint.

Maybe rather than the previous 3 posts you should read the other 1200 odd, screaming down the microphone for no good reason is never going to be popular

[PH User]

paulguitar said:

Tommo87 said:

PH User said:

TheRingDing said:

Just to throw my opinion into the ring... I really like Crofty, yes he's a bit over the top, but I am sure that's what he has been told to do to help make F1 more appealing/exciting to newer viewers.

Paul Di Resta on the other hand is my absolute least favourite person on television.

Crofty doesn't really bother me either way, we've certainly had a lot worse presenters in the past.

I agree about Paul Di Resta though, he really is annoying.

I agree with both the above.

The OP seems overly biased and protective of an unpopular viewpoint.

It's 60-odd pages mostly agreeing that Croft is an intolerable, shouty, clueless buffoon.

That's probably because most people are likely not bothered by him either way, so don't post on the internet. A few who do like to complain are on here.

[Adrian W]

PH User said:

paulguitar said:

Tommo87 said:

PH User said:

TheRingDing said:

Just to throw my opinion into the ring... I really like Crofty, yes he's a bit over the top, but I am sure that's what he has been told to do to help make F1 more appealing/exciting to newer viewers.

Paul Di Resta on the other hand is my absolute least favourite person on television.

Crofty doesn't really bother me either way, we've certainly had a lot worse presenters in the past.

I agree about Paul Di Resta though, he really is annoying.

I agree with both the above.

The OP seems overly biased and protective of an unpopular viewpoint.

It's 60-odd pages mostly agreeing that Croft is an intolerable, shouty, clueless buffoon.

That's probably because most people are likely not bothered by him either way, so don't post on the internet. A few who do like to complain are on here.

That’s true, but that statement can apply to every thread on every forum on the internet, but this thread is about Croft’s unsuitability for the job he is doing at Sky F1, he is a football commentator who knows very little about F1 and continually spouts inaccurate or irrelevant rubbish and screams at the audience for no good reason .

[paulguitar]

PH User said:

That's probably because most people are likely not bothered by him either way, so don't post on the internet. A few who do like to complain are on here.

It's a more clued-up set of people here, certainly. He's a good fit for something like darts, it's likely their viewers would not object to his F1 screaming.

[PH User]

Adrian W said:

PH User said:

paulguitar said:

Tommo87 said:

PH User said:

TheRingDing said:

Just to throw my opinion into the ring... I really like Crofty, yes he's a bit over the top, but I am sure that's what he has been told to do to help make F1 more appealing/exciting to newer viewers.

Paul Di Resta on the other hand is my absolute least favourite person on television.

Crofty doesn't really bother me either way, we've certainly had a lot worse presenters in the past.

I agree about Paul Di Resta though, he really is annoying.

I agree with both the above.

The OP seems overly biased and protective of an unpopular viewpoint.

It's 60-odd pages mostly agreeing that Croft is an intolerable, shouty, clueless buffoon.

That's probably because most people are likely not bothered by him either way, so don't post on the internet. A few who do like to complain are on here.

That’s true, but that statement can apply to every thread on every forum on the internet, but this thread is about Croft’s unsuitability for the job he is doing at Sky F1, he is a football commentator who knows very little about F1 and continually spouts inaccurate or irrelevant rubbish and screams at the audience for no good reason .

Well that's your opinion, which obviously you're welcome to make.

[LukeBrown66]

He had been a darts commie for years before somehow getting the F1 gig, it is about his level really, and he has never really adjusted.

[LostM135idriver]

I think it’s when he commentates on the actual wheel to wheel racing that he gives away he has no feel for motorsport. Early in the race yesterday when LH was behind tsunoda, Hamilton deliberately ran a wider line to get a better exit and have more grip through the turn. Croft exclaimed that Hamilton had run wide.

[paulguitar]

LostM135idriver said:

I think it’s when he commentates on the actual wheel to wheel racing that he gives away he has no feel for motorsport. Early in the race yesterday when LH was behind tsunoda, Hamilton deliberately ran a wider line to get a better exit and have more grip through the turn. Croft exclaimed that Hamilton had run wide.

Yes, exactly right. I get the impression that the only motorsport he’s ever been anywhere near as a participant is literally the lawnmower-engined karting thing organized by Sky a few years ago. He has zero understanding of the ins and outs of wheel-to-wheel racing. It’s this complete ignorance, coupled with the relentless, unnecessary shouting that are the biggest problems.

I watched most of the race yesterday with the sound muted and got background info from the thread on here and the BBC live updates. This has become the norm, especially at races where Croft is alongside Di Resta, in the duo from hell show. Jenson was okay, I thought.

[LM240]

jsf said:

LostM135idriver said:

I think it’s when he commentates on the actual wheel to wheel racing that he gives away he has no feel for motorsport. Early in the race yesterday when LH was behind tsunoda, Hamilton deliberately ran a wider line to get a better exit and have more grip through the turn. Croft exclaimed that Hamilton had run wide.

Not just me that went ffs at that moment then!

Are you surprised coming from someone who uses the term…

‘Going for the old Switch-a-roo’

As someone said before, he thinks he is the new voice of motor racing, especially with the annoying ‘lights out and away we go’ script up on wall in his house. Painful.

[untakenname]

Stayed up all night to watch the Fury Wilder match then put on the F1 on Sky around midday for but the piercing voice was too much for me so I went back to sleep then watched the highlights on Channel 4 in the evening.

[gshughes]

LostM135idriver said:

I think it’s when he commentates on the actual wheel to wheel racing that he gives away he has no feel for motorsport. Early in the race yesterday when LH was behind tsunoda, Hamilton deliberately ran a wider line to get a better exit and have more grip through the turn. Croft exclaimed that Hamilton had run wide.

Whereas DC on C4 got it spot on and said that's the karting line to give him more speed on the exit (or something similar - I'm paraphrasing).

I have access to Sky Go on my phone through a helpful relative, but generally don't bother and just wait for the C4 highlights as their coverage is generally so much better - Alex Jacques has also improved quite a bit since he started I reckon.

[cgt2]

His belly has gone full Tony Soprano on the F1 Show.

[Adrian W]

Hopefully Brundle is back to keep him under control this weekend

[cgt2]

Looks like it's DiResta unfortunately.

The F1 weekend warmup was equally terrible on YouTube, five minutes of inane (and VERY camp) conversation which had nothing to do with F1.

I would pay a lot of money to see James Hunt interviewed by Lawrence Baretto!

Edited by cgt2 on Friday 22 October 09:53

[EVLATECOMER]

Adrian W said:

Hopefully Brundle is back to keep him under control this weekend

Apologies if this is already answered elsewhere in the F1 section guys, is Brundle only contracted for a set number of races these days or something? Is there a list of which ones or is he winding down towards retirement?

[Teddy Lop]

cgt2 said:

His belly has gone full Tony Soprano on the F1 Show.

To think people knock Hamilton's costumes, at least he isn't rocking the Matalan maternity range.

My mrs also found his jeans offensive.

[cgt2]

dibbers006 said:

You can't talk about people's weight. It upsets the chunky boys and girls.

When Croft was standing side on yesterday I was reminded of that episode when the FBI was conducting surveillance of Tony and to focus the camera the agent zoomed in on Tony's belly

[Sandpit Steve]

EVLATECOMER said:

Apologies if this is already answered elsewhere in the F1 section guys, is Brundle only contracted for a set number of races these days or something? Is there a list of which ones or is he winding down towards retirement?

He’s normally missed a couple of races in recent seasons (think his contract is for 18 weekends, which was the season when he joined up), but seems to have been absent for half a dozen or so this year. Maybe he’s happy to wind down a little as the years pass - he’s 62 now, has had a long career as both a driver and commentator, is unlikely to need the money, and would prefer to spend his time on other things in life than racking up air miles and hotel points.

[JaredVannett]

Sandpit Steve said:

EVLATECOMER said:

Apologies if this is already answered elsewhere in the F1 section guys, is Brundle only contracted for a set number of races these days or something? Is there a list of which ones or is he winding down towards retirement?

He’s normally missed a couple of races in recent seasons (think his contract is for 18 weekends, which was the season when he joined up), but seems to have been absent for half a dozen or so this year. Maybe he’s happy to wind down a little as the years pass - he’s 62 now, has had a long career as both a driver and commentator, is unlikely to need the money, and would prefer to spend his time on other things in life than racking up air miles and hotel points.

I hope not, PDR might become crofty's permanent right-hand man otherwise.

[mw88]

cgt2 said:

Looks like it's DiResta unfortunately.

Sky's FP1 program has just started, and Brundle is on so hopefully he's here for the race.