Croft has to go
Discussion
davidd said:
You lot need some help getting this wound up about some bloke on the telly.
Just ignore him, listen to people making sense, Bernie, Martin, Ted whoever and tune Croft out.
But make sure you play ‘the old switcheroo’ bingo. I don’t think we had a winner last night.
People aren’t getting wound up by him, they just hope someone who cares at Sky reads this threadJust ignore him, listen to people making sense, Bernie, Martin, Ted whoever and tune Croft out.
But make sure you play ‘the old switcheroo’ bingo. I don’t think we had a winner last night.
Greg_B said:
Koln-RS said:
I agree, and can only assume he must be a bit ‘marmite’?
It’s an incredibly difficult job, commentating on a 200mph sport with 20 competitors, and then filling in for the dull periods - for more than 2hrs.
Of course he’s going to make mistakes or repeat phrases, but love his enthusiasm.
Interestingly, since this thread has been running, whenever I’ve been chatting with other people about F1 (armchair followers, serious enthusiasts, engineers and racers), I make a point of asking what they think of Crofty, and no one has ever given a particularly negative opinion, in fact most people seem to like him.
So, I can only assume, like marmite, he divides opinion, and this thread is populated by some people who clearly don’t like him, which is fine.
But many others, inc Sky, and their approval ratings, obviously do.
The absurdity you see here reminds me mostly of the abuse that Mike Brewer was and still is subjected to by a segment of people who are allegedly fans of his TV show, and blame him for all manner of things he has nothing to do with, and then degenerate into personal insults and abuse. I don’t understand it. Maybe it is a British thing? Regardless, it is unfortunate. Did Murray Walker have to put up with similar criticism? I don’t recall. It’s an incredibly difficult job, commentating on a 200mph sport with 20 competitors, and then filling in for the dull periods - for more than 2hrs.
Of course he’s going to make mistakes or repeat phrases, but love his enthusiasm.
Interestingly, since this thread has been running, whenever I’ve been chatting with other people about F1 (armchair followers, serious enthusiasts, engineers and racers), I make a point of asking what they think of Crofty, and no one has ever given a particularly negative opinion, in fact most people seem to like him.
So, I can only assume, like marmite, he divides opinion, and this thread is populated by some people who clearly don’t like him, which is fine.
But many others, inc Sky, and their approval ratings, obviously do.
confucuis said:
I really dislike crofts commentary but I don't think people should be posting the very personal insults a good few on here have posted.
To answer some of the previous posts regarding Murray vs Croft. The major difference between Murray and Croft in my opinion is Murray made mistakes, Croft talks s
te.
Perfect example today, first few laps Russell came on the radio saying lets work together, he won't attack Hamilton. To any more than casual viewer, the clear intent being work together so as to not slow fighting each other and instead catch the guys ahead. In Crofts world though, Russell was suggesting they work together to "protect Hamilton", which Croft then announced to the world.
That is 100% a categorically wrong conclusion. Yet here he is announcing it to the world as if it were gospel, and this isn't a once off thing, it's fkin constant. But to the casual viewer, who might not understand anything about race craft, or ever heard that term, his point sounds believable.
On Reddit people love Crofty, the F1 subreddit has 3.4 million followers (14 thousand on there live as I write this). We, his critics, are very much in the minority.
Is Reddit not the “new” F1 audience? To answer some of the previous posts regarding Murray vs Croft. The major difference between Murray and Croft in my opinion is Murray made mistakes, Croft talks s
te.Perfect example today, first few laps Russell came on the radio saying lets work together, he won't attack Hamilton. To any more than casual viewer, the clear intent being work together so as to not slow fighting each other and instead catch the guys ahead. In Crofts world though, Russell was suggesting they work together to "protect Hamilton", which Croft then announced to the world.
That is 100% a categorically wrong conclusion. Yet here he is announcing it to the world as if it were gospel, and this isn't a once off thing, it's f
kin constant. But to the casual viewer, who might not understand anything about race craft, or ever heard that term, his point sounds believable. On Reddit people love Crofty, the F1 subreddit has 3.4 million followers (14 thousand on there live as I write this). We, his critics, are very much in the minority.
Greg_B said:
Whatever line of work you lot are currently in, I advise you to chuck it and immediately apply for positions as broadcast executives, since clearly you have deep knowledge of the talents required of on-air talent.
As most here have followed Formula One racing for a very long time unlike you , they do know exactly what it takes to be a good commentator and Croft hasn’t got it.EmailAddress said:
Gary C said:
Spevs said:
Nice to see Max put ShoutyTit in his place at the drivers press conference.
What did he say ?https://youtu.be/6jmNyqlECkU?feature=shared
paulguitar said:
Greg_B said:
Adrian W said:
As most here have followed Formula One racing for a very long time unlike you , they do know exactly what it takes to be a good commentator and Croft hasn’t got it.
I’ve been watching F1 since the ‘70s, lad. I’ve seen many broadcasters and heard lots of bad commentary. What we are getting currently is excellent. Megaflow said:
Greg_B said:
Adrian W said:
I just saw the F1 show bit about the commentary box, as Croft can’t actually see the race and commentates from a monitor, it begs the question why is he there at all
What would you have him do as an alternative, strap on a jet pack and fly around the track for 2 hours? You do realize, don’t you, that F1 racetracks are not visible from a single position? What a ridiculous statement. 520TORQUES said:
Adrian W said:
They did a piece early in the weekend about the commentary box, Croft showed that he works from some data screens , some spreadsheets on the wall and a monitor showing what we see, he doesn’t see the race.
He has to network darling.-
his fiancé works for Aston Martin, I suppose that networking nordboy said:
Scrump said:
Are andygo, nordboy and BVV going to become C4 F1 watchers and join us in moaning about Steve Jones?
Tbh, I'm not sure I'll watch any of the F1. Not sure I can stomach Jones or the two extremely biased Red Bull employees.
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