Official 2020 Turkish Grand Prix **SPOILERS**
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This is an interesting little snippet from Ant Davidson.
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
thegreenhell said:
This is an interesting little snippet from Ant Davidson.
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
Great quote from a racing driver: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
“That’s what a perfect lap is. It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. That lap was damn well as close as it can get.”
Qualifying here is going to be a battle of the tyres - thinks back to Silverstone and Red Bull’s mad idea of running Q2 on the hard...
Sandpit Steve said:
Great quote from a racing driver:
“That’s what a perfect lap is. It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. That lap was damn well as close as it can get.”
Qualifying here is going to be a battle of the tyres - thinks back to Silverstone and Red Bull’s mad idea of running Q2 on the hard...
That hard was the medium the week before and that was the tyre to be on wasn’t it ? “That’s what a perfect lap is. It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. That lap was damn well as close as it can get.”
Qualifying here is going to be a battle of the tyres - thinks back to Silverstone and Red Bull’s mad idea of running Q2 on the hard...
JPvanRossem said:
Sandpit Steve said:
It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. ”
I used to race. Most of my laps were like that. I was s
t.They then have another level to go to where they are on the ragged edge.
I’m glad to see the cars back here. The circuit used to seem like a real challenge. That probably won’t be the case for the 2020 cars. But it’s another unfamiliar track which should give teams and drivers something to think about.
This feels like the end of an interesting and enjoyable season. Effectively the last race of the European F1 championship before heading off to the Middle East for some exhibition races once the WCC and WDC are wrapped up.
This feels like the end of an interesting and enjoyable season. Effectively the last race of the European F1 championship before heading off to the Middle East for some exhibition races once the WCC and WDC are wrapped up.
The Moose said:
For what it’s worth (and not intending to argue), but I think there’s a ‘restart this program’ on the live streaming options. So you can switch back to the beginning and watch all the way through.
I thought this only works if the show is available on the catchup player (4OD or iPlayer etc.).No matter as I will be watching when they are aired thanks to this thread
Bright Halo said:
I am like that when I really push. Then if I go out on track with someone who has more skill they drive very smoothly with less effort and go quicker!
They then have another level to go to where they are on the ragged edge.
I was at Brands watching GP qually one year. I was with a group of friends in the stands.They then have another level to go to where they are on the ragged edge.
I was a bit of a fan of Derek Warwick and during a discussion about the relative merits of drivers, I pointed out that Warwick was 'so much smoother than any other driver'. An old boy, about 10 years younger than I am now, sitting in the row in front of us was obviously frustrated by the rubbish we were saying. He turned around and said to me, 'He nearly a second and a half off the pace. He's damn well entitled to be smoother'.
My mates burst into laughter, as I did. The bloke joined us in our row - someone hadn't turned up - and we stayed with him all day. Great bloke, had watched them all. He apologised to me for his tone but I had to smile. Had it coming.
Sandpit Steve said:
Great quote from a racing driver:
“That’s what a perfect lap is. It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. That lap was damn well as close as it can get.”
I wonder if that's because he was in an average car that was less well developed (and less stable) than the sharp end of the grid, or if that is how everyone feels? My guess is that's how George Russell feels every quali session, but I get the impression that Lewis, Max etc typically find the limits on a Friday and have predictable enough cars to hook it up without quite so much risk on a Saturday.“That’s what a perfect lap is. It’s when you nearly crash at every corner, where you nearly lock up but don’t, where the car twitches nervously on exit but doesn’t let go. That lap was damn well as close as it can get.”
Derek Smith said:
Bright Halo said:
I am like that when I really push. Then if I go out on track with someone who has more skill they drive very smoothly with less effort and go quicker!
They then have another level to go to where they are on the ragged edge.
I was at Brands watching GP qually one year. I was with a group of friends in the stands.They then have another level to go to where they are on the ragged edge.
I was a bit of a fan of Derek Warwick and during a discussion about the relative merits of drivers, I pointed out that Warwick was 'so much smoother than any other driver'. An old boy, about 10 years younger than I am now, sitting in the row in front of us was obviously frustrated by the rubbish we were saying. He turned around and said to me, 'He nearly a second and a half off the pace. He's damn well entitled to be smoother'.
My mates burst into laughter, as I did. The bloke joined us in our row - someone hadn't turned up - and we stayed with him all day. Great bloke, had watched them all. He apologised to me for his tone but I had to smile. Had it coming.
TheDeuce said:
Derek Smith said:
The two-week wait between some races is a bit of a pain.
How quickly we've become accustomed to such a frantic season!It does indeed feel rudely drawn out to have to an entire fortnight between races at this point!
Deesee said:
It’s a shorter than usual season, so the major components are doing 5 or 6 events rather than 7, but the reliability of these power units is astonishing that no-one has had to take a penalty yet. The fastest cars ever made can achieve over 10mpg during a race, on an engine that goes close to 5,000km between rebuilds. Brilliant engineering.
Edit: The mid-season ban on turning them up to 11 on Saturday afternoons will have helped the reliability somewhat, as well as the reduced number of races. Next year’s calendar will be a tougher test, with each unit needing to do 8 events - probably closer to 6,000km. That’s probably the point at which the teams think about how much time they spend on track on Fridays.
Edited by Sandpit Steve on Thursday 12th November 09:09
Mr Pointy said:
I think Bottas has to outscore Hamilton by 8 points to stop him winning the WDC.
Just checked the points allocation for F1 to see how this works out in practical application.As 1st place gets 25 points and 2nd place is awarded 18 points, plus there is the additional bonus point for a fastest lap, the most obvious scenario for Bottas to aim for is a win plus get the fastest lap to give that eight points difference, assuming LH gets second.
Obviously there are a thousand other possible permutations but with the amount of podiums VB and LH have had between them this year I suspect this will be the foremost in VB's mind as we head in to the weekend.
Mark V GTD said:
Mr Pointy said:
I think Bottas has to outscore Hamilton by 8 points to stop him winning the WDC.
Just checked the points allocation for F1 to see how this works out in practical application.As 1st place gets 25 points and 2nd place is awarded 18 points, plus there is the additional bonus point for a fastest lap, the most obvious scenario for Bottas to aim for is a win plus get the fastest lap to give that eight points difference, assuming LH gets second.
Obviously there are a thousand other possible permutations but with the amount of podiums VB and LH have had between them this year I suspect this will be the foremost in VB's mind as we head in to the weekend.
Mr Pointy said:
Unfortunately for Bottas coming out of this weekend having scored eight points more than Hamilton is the easy part. After that he has no control over the outcome as he needs Lewis to DNF the three remaining races.
Or be out of the points and not put in a fastest lap. It's not going to happen for Bottas.
Mr Pointy said:
Mark V GTD said:
Mr Pointy said:
I think Bottas has to outscore Hamilton by 8 points to stop him winning the WDC.
Just checked the points allocation for F1 to see how this works out in practical application.As 1st place gets 25 points and 2nd place is awarded 18 points, plus there is the additional bonus point for a fastest lap, the most obvious scenario for Bottas to aim for is a win plus get the fastest lap to give that eight points difference, assuming LH gets second.
Obviously there are a thousand other possible permutations but with the amount of podiums VB and LH have had between them this year I suspect this will be the foremost in VB's mind as we head in to the weekend.
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