Haas chose Russia’s Nikita Mazepin
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HustleRussell said:
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
What could have caused race ending damage when he spun on his own at Bahrain turn 4?
I would suggest that when one spins one is not in control of one's vehicle. He could have collected his team-mate or another driver.He did not choose to spin at that very point in the race. Or did he.....?
HustleRussell said:
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
What could have caused race ending damage when he spun on his own at Bahrain turn 4?
I would suggest that when one spins one is not in control of one's vehicle. He could have collected his team-mate or another driver.He did not choose to spin at that very point in the race. Or did he.....?
Gazzab said:
HustleRussell said:
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
What could have caused race ending damage when he spun on his own at Bahrain turn 4?
I would suggest that when one spins one is not in control of one's vehicle. He could have collected his team-mate or another driver.He did not choose to spin at that very point in the race. Or did he.....?
kiseca said:
Gazzab said:
HustleRussell said:
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
What could have caused race ending damage when he spun on his own at Bahrain turn 4?
I would suggest that when one spins one is not in control of one's vehicle. He could have collected his team-mate or another driver.He did not choose to spin at that very point in the race. Or did he.....?
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
So I’m the only person here who recognises that drivers calculate their risk / reward approach to a given circuit and individual corners according to the likely consequences of overstepping the mark?
Well Mick forgot that when he hit the wall yesterday. HustleRussell said:
Drivers having a spin or off yesterday include Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc, Alonso, Sainz, Perez to name but a few. I think some credit is due to both rookie Haas drivers just for finishing the race.
I am not certain but it is quite possible that it was the first time in the wet in an F1 car for the rookies.
I am not certain but it is quite possible that it was the first time in the wet in an F1 car for the rookies.
HustleRussell said:
kiseca said:
Gazzab said:
HustleRussell said:
Blib said:
HustleRussell said:
What could have caused race ending damage when he spun on his own at Bahrain turn 4?
I would suggest that when one spins one is not in control of one's vehicle. He could have collected his team-mate or another driver.He did not choose to spin at that very point in the race. Or did he.....?
He didn't choose to spin there. If he doesn't push as hard as he can through every corner, he'll be beaten by the driver who does. They may choose different lines to avoid bumps and so on that can upset the car, but I don't believe there's any corner on the tracks right now that they will go through at less than 10 tenths because the possibility of car damage if they go off.
Just watch them at Monaco. They'll come back with scuff marks on all four tyres there. Some drivers even know where the armco support posts are so they know where they can brush the barrier a bit harder and it will give, and where they need to brush it really gently because it won't.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The FIA really need to use him as an example of why license points should be carried through the formulas.
I've been banging that drum for ages.Clearly designate formulae levels - progress to the next level only if top four in championship achieved... or similar. This needs to be coupled with a more equitable distribution of money to teams in F1 to reduce dependancy upon pay drivers as well as through the lower formulae.
So the higher a driver goes through the lower formulae, the need for them to fund their pursuits lessens. By the time they get to F1, they're there on merit alone.
ajprice said:
He finished in last place in Portugal (excluding Kimi's DNF), a minute behind Schumacher, and got a penalty point along with a 5 second time penalty for holding up Perez/ignoring blue flags.
But he didn't spin in the race, so that's something.
That penalty seemed rather lenient, and purely based on the fact he didn’t actually crash into the race leader! He was all over the track, despite blue flags waving at him - the light panels now have the car number showing with the blue flag, so he couldn’t have thought it was for someone else. But he didn't spin in the race, so that's something.
Memories of the bad old days before the107% rule and super licence points, where the pay drivers at the back really were mobile chicanes for everyone else.
kiseca said:
Just watch them at Monaco. They'll come back with scuff marks on all four tyres there. Some drivers even know where the armco support posts are so they know where they can brush the barrier a bit harder and it will give, and where they need to brush it really gently because it won't.
I’ve heard it all now. LolStevieBee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The FIA really need to use him as an example of why license points should be carried through the formulas.
I've been banging that drum for ages.Clearly designate formulae levels - progress to the next level only if top four in championship achieved... or similar. This needs to be coupled with a more equitable distribution of money to teams in F1 to reduce dependancy upon pay drivers as well as through the lower formulae.
So the higher a driver goes through the lower formulae, the need for them to fund their pursuits lessens. By the time they get to F1, they're there on merit alone.
entropy said:
I'm not a massive fan of increasing Superlicense points.
It's an excuse to bash certain drivers either contemporarily too young (eg. Kimi and Max) or (perhaps) out of their depth (eg. drivers with rich parents).
Are we talking about superlicence points to get into the formula, or penalty points on the licence?It's an excuse to bash certain drivers either contemporarily too young (eg. Kimi and Max) or (perhaps) out of their depth (eg. drivers with rich parents).
The former feels about right at the moment.
The latter I agree should not be reset when moving formula.
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