Bottas revealed

Bottas revealed

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sparta6

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2,504 posts

64 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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C70R said:
HighwayStar said:
It’s his standard MO thumbup
Imagine looking at everything in your life, the finite amount of time you spend on earth; and deciding that a good use of that time is to persistently troll a sportsman on an anonymous internet message board.
Or continually blow smoke up his backside on a message board.
Either way, I'm sure Hamilton appreciates both sides of the argument hehe

Back on topic, at Red Bull Webber didn't sleep and neither did Ricciardo.
George also wasn't sleeping in the Mercedes.

How much does Bottas get paid to snooze ?



sparta6

Original Poster:

2,504 posts

64 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
You realise that Webber, whom you cite as an example, essentially was Bottas at Red Bull back in the early 2010s?
I wouldn't call this sleeping between team mates.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyfs4b


Yet to see this from sleepy Bottas



HighwayStar

3,320 posts

108 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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sparta6 said:
C70R said:
HighwayStar said:
It’s his standard MO thumbup
Imagine looking at everything in your life, the finite amount of time you spend on earth; and deciding that a good use of that time is to persistently troll a sportsman on an anonymous internet message board.
Or continually blow smoke up his backside on a message board.
Either way, I'm sure Hamilton appreciates both sides of the argument hehe

Back on topic, at Red Bull Webber didn't sleep and neither did Ricciardo.
George also wasn't sleeping in the Mercedes.

How much does Bottas get paid to snooze ?
Behave, do you think Lewis reading the appreciation, or slagging, he gets on this ‘message board?’ wink

Bottas has the same opportunity as Rosberg had, clearly he isn’t Rosberg but he’s doing enough, especially as Max is even less troubled by his wingman.

I’ll be happy should Russell gets VBs seat because he clearly has the potential to challenge for a WDC but... If Bottas keeps his seat, well, you’ll pop a vein and won’t be able to stop yourself expressing your displeasure on this here message board. Much to my amusement biggrinwink

C70R

7,843 posts

68 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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sparta6 said:
C70R said:
HighwayStar said:
It’s his standard MO thumbup
Imagine looking at everything in your life, the finite amount of time you spend on earth; and deciding that a good use of that time is to persistently troll a sportsman on an anonymous internet message board.
Or continually blow smoke up his backside on a message board.
Either way, I'm sure Hamilton appreciates both sides of the argument hehe

Back on topic, at Red Bull Webber didn't sleep and neither did Ricciardo.
George also wasn't sleeping in the Mercedes.

How much does Bottas get paid to snooze ?
Being real for a moment, there are a number of mental health charities who can support you with depression linked to social media use.

I hope you get the help that you need.

parabolica

5,551 posts

148 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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HighwayStar said:
sparta6 said:
C70R said:
HighwayStar said:
It’s his standard MO thumbup
Imagine looking at everything in your life, the finite amount of time you spend on earth; and deciding that a good use of that time is to persistently troll a sportsman on an anonymous internet message board.
Or continually blow smoke up his backside on a message board.
Either way, I'm sure Hamilton appreciates both sides of the argument hehe

Back on topic, at Red Bull Webber didn't sleep and neither did Ricciardo.
George also wasn't sleeping in the Mercedes.

How much does Bottas get paid to snooze ?
Behave, do you think Lewis reading the appreciation, or slagging, he gets on this ‘message board?’ wink

Bottas has the same opportunity as Rosberg had, clearly he isn’t Rosberg but he’s doing enough, especially as Max is even less troubled by his wingman.

I’ll be happy should Russell gets VBs seat because he clearly has the potential to challenge for a WDC but... If Bottas keeps his seat, well, you’ll pop a vein and won’t be able to stop yourself expressing your displeasure on this here message board. Much to my amusement biggrinwink
People still cite Rosberg as a benchmark as if this is still 2016 and Lewis hasn't got exponentially stronger in the four years since. It's such a lazy comparison, Bottas vs Rosberg.

I do agree with the analogy of Bottas being akin to Webber tho; likeable enough and gets a few decent wins and races against his teammate but ultimately doesn't seem to have the stamina to keep up the fight over a whole season.

HighwayStar

3,320 posts

108 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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parabolica said:
HighwayStar said:
sparta6 said:
C70R said:
HighwayStar said:
It’s his standard MO thumbup
Imagine looking at everything in your life, the finite amount of time you spend on earth; and deciding that a good use of that time is to persistently troll a sportsman on an anonymous internet message board.
Or continually blow smoke up his backside on a message board.
Either way, I'm sure Hamilton appreciates both sides of the argument hehe

Back on topic, at Red Bull Webber didn't sleep and neither did Ricciardo.
George also wasn't sleeping in the Mercedes.

How much does Bottas get paid to snooze ?
Behave, do you think Lewis reading the appreciation, or slagging, he gets on this ‘message board?’ wink

Bottas has the same opportunity as Rosberg had, clearly he isn’t Rosberg but he’s doing enough, especially as Max is even less troubled by his wingman.

I’ll be happy should Russell gets VBs seat because he clearly has the potential to challenge for a WDC but... If Bottas keeps his seat, well, you’ll pop a vein and won’t be able to stop yourself expressing your displeasure on this here message board. Much to my amusement biggrinwink
People still cite Rosberg as a benchmark as if this is still 2016 and Lewis hasn't got exponentially stronger in the four years since. It's such a lazy comparison, Bottas vs Rosberg.

I do agree with the analogy of Bottas being akin to Webber tho; likeable enough and gets a few decent wins and races against his teammate but ultimately doesn't seem to have the stamina to keep up the fight over a whole season.
I didn’t compare him to Rosberg, just stated he clearly isn’t as good as Rosberg, hence him not troubling Lewis regularly enough to worry him. Yes, Lewis has upped his game tremendously since 2016. He learned a lot that year. He can dig deep, when he needs too.

C350Akra

8,795 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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I do not see Webber and Bottas as a fair comparison, Bottas is allowed to race and win, Webber was not. Would I change Bottas for 2021? No, he just about manages enough for Mercedes' purposes.

sparta6

Original Poster:

2,504 posts

64 months

Saturday 16th January
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Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin


MarkwG

2,915 posts

153 months

Saturday 16th January
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sparta6 said:
Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin
You're as regular as Senokot, & about as pleasant, aren't you?

DoubleD

17,371 posts

72 months

Saturday 16th January
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So this is just a Hamilton bashing thread?

HighwayStar

3,320 posts

108 months

Saturday 16th January
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sparta6 said:
Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin
It’s time... wink

MarkwG

2,915 posts

153 months

Saturday 16th January
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DoubleD said:
So this is just a Hamilton bashing thread?
For our Dutch gladiator, every thread is Hamilton bashing thread. Start one on the life cycle of the slowworm, & he'll get a pop in somehow...

Supersam83

497 posts

109 months

Saturday 16th January
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sparta6 said:
Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin
Bottas is just admitting that he is only a driver and not a racing driver.

The single minded determination and ruthlessness is what separates the average driver from the championship chasing race driver.

For him to say clearly that he will not use similar tactics as Rosberg is an admission of that.

parabolica

5,551 posts

148 months

Saturday 16th January
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Supersam83 said:
sparta6 said:
Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin
Bottas is just admitting that he is only a driver and not a racing driver.

The single minded determination and ruthlessness is what separates the average driver from the championship chasing race driver.

For him to say clearly that he will not use similar tactics as Rosberg is an admission of that.
Problem is Lewis doesn’t use dirty tactics to win races; he simply drives out of his skin. If Bottas wants to go toe to toe on the same basis then good for him, but challenge seems insurmountable.

Tbh I think you could put anyone in the second Merc and Lewis would just adapt and pull ahead further as required.

TheDeuce

8,911 posts

30 months

Sunday 17th January
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parabolica said:
Supersam83 said:
sparta6 said:
Nothing new here

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-...


Lewis still wrapped up in cotton wool since 2016.

Bless biggrin
Bottas is just admitting that he is only a driver and not a racing driver.

The single minded determination and ruthlessness is what separates the average driver from the championship chasing race driver.

For him to say clearly that he will not use similar tactics as Rosberg is an admission of that.
Problem is Lewis doesn’t use dirty tactics to win races; he simply drives out of his skin. If Bottas wants to go toe to toe on the same basis then good for him, but challenge seems insurmountable.

Tbh I think you could put anyone in the second Merc and Lewis would just adapt and pull ahead further as required.
Someone will come along and yet again point to Rosberg as an example of Lewis not being able to pull further ahead...

So I thought I might jump in first and remind whoever that Rosberg took a years run up and sacrificed his entire life to beat Lewis, only just managed it on a wing and a prayer and then immediately reported that the feat was impossible for him to continue and repeat. So... Lewis can be beaten - but it turns out the only person to do so wouldn't recommend it.


fttm

2,314 posts

99 months

Sunday 17th January
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VB currently 6 0/A after day 1 of the Artic Rally in a Citroen DS3WRC , no mean feat . Deffo a cut above your average driver .

mat205125

16,100 posts

177 months

Monday 18th January
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C350Akra said:
I do not see Webber and Bottas as a fair comparison, Bottas is allowed to race and win, Webber was not. Would I change Bottas for 2021? No, he just about manages enough for Mercedes' purposes.
Exactly.as much as I would like to see Russell fighting Hamilton in equal cars, it's not in Mercedes interest to have a boat that rocks


exelero

1,195 posts

53 months

Monday 18th January
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mat205125 said:
Exactly.as much as I would like to see Russell fighting Hamilton in equal cars, it's not in Mercedes interest to have a boat that rocks
As fans we would all enjoy it tho smile

TwentyFive

316 posts

30 months

Monday 18th January
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C350Akra said:
I do not see Webber and Bottas as a fair comparison, Bottas is allowed to race and win, Webber was not. Would I change Bottas for 2021? No, he just about manages enough for Mercedes' purposes.
I think a better Bottas comparison would be someone like David Coulthard. Solid driver and a multiple grand prix winner but not quite fast enough to regularly challenge his world champion teammate (Hakkinen).

DC worked well for McLaren in much the same way that Bottas works for Mercedes. Scores heavily but not often quick enough to destabilise the top dog in the team and as such the team harmony is strong.

entropy

4,063 posts

167 months

Monday 18th January
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parabolica said:
I do agree with the analogy of Bottas being akin to Webber tho; likeable enough and gets a few decent wins and races against his teammate but ultimately doesn't seem to have the stamina to keep up the fight over a whole season.
Webber was in contention for WDC in 2010. Regardless of the final standings he would have been a worthy WDC, IMO.

The high rear downforce, trick diffusers and exhausts suited Vettel's driving style more than Webber's; Webber was better at the start of the season when RBR had to develop the blown diffuser layout.

C350Akra said:
I do not see Webber and Bottas as a fair comparison, Bottas is allowed to race and win, Webber was not. Would I change Bottas for 2021? No, he just about manages enough for Mercedes' purposes.
Multi-21

HighwayStar said:
I didn’t compare him to Rosberg, just stated he clearly isn’t as good as Rosberg, hence him not troubling Lewis regularly enough to worry him. Yes, Lewis has upped his game tremendously since 2016. He learned a lot that year. He can dig deep, when he needs too.
In the first year or two of the VB-LH partnership, when Bottas had the upperhand it was because Hamilton still had the habit of over-driving the car to compensate. I have no doubt Lewis' brainpower progression but I wonder had the Rosberg partnership continued whether Lewis would have upped his game with calmer composure, smoother inputs without the frisson of intra-team rivalry?