Watching F1 on TV
Discussion
Mr Pointy said:
Gad-Westy said:
Mr Pointy said:
SoulGlo said:
For anyone with an Android TV (In my case a Sony Bravia) you can download the F1 TV app by "side loading" as it's called. (installing an application package in APK format onto an Android device.)
You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
Amazon Firesticks work well & the F1TV app is in the store so no need to sideload & I find the remote is much better than trying to use the Sony TV one. They are expensive at the moment though. You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
Edited by FrankieBee on Sunday 12th March 12:39
FrankieBee said:
Mr Pointy said:
Gad-Westy said:
Mr Pointy said:
SoulGlo said:
For anyone with an Android TV (In my case a Sony Bravia) you can download the F1 TV app by "side loading" as it's called. (installing an application package in APK format onto an Android device.)
You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
Amazon Firesticks work well & the F1TV app is in the store so no need to sideload & I find the remote is much better than trying to use the Sony TV one. They are expensive at the moment though. You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
USA, Canada, Portugal or France are good ones to choose.
Teppic said:
FrankieBee said:
Mr Pointy said:
Gad-Westy said:
Mr Pointy said:
SoulGlo said:
For anyone with an Android TV (In my case a Sony Bravia) you can download the F1 TV app by "side loading" as it's called. (installing an application package in APK format onto an Android device.)
You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
Amazon Firesticks work well & the F1TV app is in the store so no need to sideload & I find the remote is much better than trying to use the Sony TV one. They are expensive at the moment though. You have to make sure the .APK is the latest version but this is how could watch the F1 without having to mucking about with casting or HDMI cables.
USA, Canada, Portugal or France are good ones to choose.
Must say we're really enjoying the coverage, thought I'd miss some of brundles insights but jolyn does a fine job and DC, Sam Collins and others have a lot to contribute.
Even when watching the Netflix show their brief clips of cr*ftys inane hollering still generates a kind of post traumatic wince in me.
Even when watching the Netflix show their brief clips of cr*ftys inane hollering still generates a kind of post traumatic wince in me.
carl_w said:
I've only just realized that Alex Jacques and Jolyon Palmer are not at the circuit and are commentating remotely. But DC appears to be at the track.
Is this normally the case?
Yes, but DC won't be at every race, or joining the comms either every race, also you'll get the excellent Alex Brundle when he's not racing sports cars.Is this normally the case?
carl_w said:
I've only just realized that Alex Jacques and Jolyon Palmer are not at the circuit and are commentating remotely. But DC appears to be at the track.
Is this normally the case?
It's very very rare these days that being at the track actually adds a huge amount to the commentary, they spend the vast majority of the time looking at screens at nearly all the circuits as the sightlines simply aren't there (after all, most circuits aren't Castle Combe or Goodwood!)Is this normally the case?
I can't say I've noticed any difference, they may travel to the Euro races but not usually the fly aways.
illmonkey said:
Worked beautifully yesterday. I was away for the weekend and had to catch up on both qually and the race. The F1TV service was great. I am always dubious of loading the app and seeing ‘post race’ and a pic of the winner, so I have to look through my hands and squint!
Yup was very happy with it yesterday - perfect quality throughout and no app crashing this time.ch37 said:
carl_w said:
I've only just realized that Alex Jacques and Jolyon Palmer are not at the circuit and are commentating remotely. But DC appears to be at the track.
Is this normally the case?
It's very very rare these days that being at the track actually adds a huge amount to the commentary, they spend the vast majority of the time looking at screens at nearly all the circuits as the sightlines simply aren't there (after all, most circuits aren't Castle Combe or Goodwood!)Is this normally the case?
I can't say I've noticed any difference, they may travel to the Euro races but not usually the fly aways.
Marc Priestley did a video on it a couple of years ago, when he was the commentator for a couple of races.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kCpabK3qWUo
Edited by Sandpit Steve on Monday 20th March 09:11
I'd have to say I disagree; live trackside commentary is always better than when it's done remotely just looking at the F1 video & data feeds. There's a lack of colour & no possibility of incidental anecdotes picked up from being at the track. There might be less of these during the actual race commentary but they can still add to the overall result.
The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
Mr Pointy said:
I'd have to say I disagree; live trackside commentary is always better than when it's done remotely just looking at the F1 video & data feeds. There's a lack of colour & no possibility of incidental anecdotes picked up from being at the track. There might be less of these during the actual race commentary but they can still add to the overall result.
The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
It’s also things they see and hear just being in the paddock, body language, demeanour etc. There’s none of that when you’re not at the track.The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
MissChief said:
Mr Pointy said:
I'd have to say I disagree; live trackside commentary is always better than when it's done remotely just looking at the F1 video & data feeds. There's a lack of colour & no possibility of incidental anecdotes picked up from being at the track. There might be less of these during the actual race commentary but they can still add to the overall result.
The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
It’s also things they see and hear just being in the paddock, body language, demeanour etc. There’s none of that when you’re not at the track.The comm boxes almost always overlook the pits & whilst it's true they can't see the whole track, they do pick up a lot of atmosphere.
Mr Pointy said:
Agreed. Unfortuantely it's becoming a more popular way of producing a show because it's obviously much cheaper to have two or three people at Biggin Hill rather than fly them around the world. It's become more feasible to split the team with just someone like Coulthard at the track (who is probably already there with C4) due to lower latency links as previously it was quite tricky running 2 way conversations due to the link latency.
Yes, the split team is probably a good balance. In the Marc Priestley video linked above, he was with analyst Jolyon Palmer in the UK studio, while journalist Jennie Gow and tech analyst Lawrence Baretto were at the track. The difference is cost is massive, you have to pay people a lot more to travel away, and their expenses are mad - because everytime they go anywhere, the F1 circus is in town.
To make up some numbers, your two-person studio commentary team might cost £10k for the weekend (two salaries and a studio rental), whereas your ‘two-person’ onsite team might cost more than £40k for about five travelling people for the weekend - with flights, hotels, local transport, paddock passes, radio link etc.
Multiply that £30k difference by 23 races, and there’s over half a million in savings over the year.
Murray Walker and James Hunt rarely went to Japan, Australia, South Africa or Brazil, they usually commentated on the flyaways from a studio in London, watching the world feed and a timing screen like the rest of us.
Edited by Sandpit Steve on Monday 20th March 12:27
Sandpit Steve said:
Murray Walker and James Hunt rarely went to Japan, Australia, South Africa or Brazil, they usually commentated on the flyaways from a studio in London.
In the early days (from 1978 to 1991). Eventually they did start travelling to the more far flung races - especially as UK interest in F1 peaked in the years 1992 to 1996.I would think unless they want their staff to be on some sort of jolly it makes no sense sitting in a booth somewhere far away or here in the uk with the reliable communications technology.
The only thing is we are cursed with commentators using the shrill murray commentating style which only sounded like that as it was over some low quality satellite link. Whenever he was interviewed in the uk he had a lower frequency voice.
Murray clone commentators are idiots.
Cant really see what murray and hunt brought to the show by being there anyway. They must have spent most of the time in the pub.
The only thing is we are cursed with commentators using the shrill murray commentating style which only sounded like that as it was over some low quality satellite link. Whenever he was interviewed in the uk he had a lower frequency voice.
Murray clone commentators are idiots.
Cant really see what murray and hunt brought to the show by being there anyway. They must have spent most of the time in the pub.
Any advice on how to pay for F1 TV warmly received
Ive successfully moved to the USA with the help of my VPN, created an account and selected the correct subscription however its got the hump as my card details are clearly in the UK. Paypal would be good but its not an option
How have you lot paid?
Cheers
Fundoreen said:
I would think unless they want their staff to be on some sort of jolly it makes no sense sitting in a booth somewhere far away or here in the uk with the reliable communications technology.
The only thing is we are cursed with commentators using the shrill murray commentating style which only sounded like that as it was over some low quality satellite link. Whenever he was interviewed in the uk he had a lower frequency voice.
Murray clone commentators are idiots.
Cant really see what murray and hunt brought to the show by being there anyway. They must have spent most of the time in the pub.
Radio 5 Live. You can watch the non-race programmes, with all the info, and then listen to R5L, without the screaming, shouting and, often, interesting info.The only thing is we are cursed with commentators using the shrill murray commentating style which only sounded like that as it was over some low quality satellite link. Whenever he was interviewed in the uk he had a lower frequency voice.
Murray clone commentators are idiots.
Cant really see what murray and hunt brought to the show by being there anyway. They must have spent most of the time in the pub.
I think they're great.
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